Talk:alwite

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RFV discussion: February–March 2022[edit]

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Rfv-sense of the noun relating to medieval armor. I added the only source I could find; AFAICT everything else (collocations like "alwite armor", etc) is the adjective, or refers to some modern thing ("Wire Wheel Hub Caps Are Cast of Alwite", etc). - -sche (discuss) 09:25, 4 February 2022 (UTC)Reply

I can barely even find the adjective, although it would likely pass RFV. The spelling alwyte is slightly more successful, but there is still very little.
The word - absent from OED - seems to first appear in a 15th-century will written in a mix of French, Latin and English, and then goes largely unmentioned until the late 1800s. Uses and mentions remain sporadic throughout the 20th century. An unusual history for sure. For the spelling we perhaps compare alright, alwise etc. This, that and the other (talk) 07:40, 7 March 2022 (UTC)Reply

RFV-failed This, that and the other (talk) 10:35, 22 March 2022 (UTC)Reply

Just noting that after the RFVed noun was removed, the unchallenged adjective was then also removed. I moved the etymology and other content to alwhite (which had not been deleted). Frustratingly, I can only easily find two cites each of alwhite, alwite, and alwyte (as an adjective, though I indeed also spotted a second nounal citation along the way); I've putt them on the citations pages. I may need to look at what quotations out-of-copyright dictionaries have or crank the searching up to eleven to find a third cite of one spelling or another... - -sche (discuss) 09:13, 30 March 2022 (UTC)Reply
I didn't realise alwhite existed, so that's a good move. As for the attestation, as far as I'm concerned the term clearly exists and three cites have been found, even if their spelling is not consistent. We have to be lenient when it comes to very old (and perhaps very new) words whose spelling is unsettled. This, that and the other (talk) 11:25, 30 March 2022 (UTC)Reply