Talk:genoeg
Latest comment: 13 years ago by Jamesjiao in topic Numeral
Numeral[edit]
Is it a numeral by Dutch standard? In English we'd call this an adjective or an adverb Mglovesfun (talk) 19:46, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
- A numeral is a word that specifies an amount of something, right? Seems that this fits that description. It can be replaced by a cardinal number in all cases and vice versa. It also does not inflect like adjectives do. —CodeCat 21:18, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
- "Genoeg" kan vaak genoeg niet door een hoofdtelwoord worden vervangen. --Erik Warmelink 10:33, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
- But in that sentence it's an adverb, not an adjective or numeral, because it modifies something that's not a noun or pronoun. —CodeCat 12:39, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you for adding the adverb.
- By the way, would it be good to mention the position of "genoeg":
- after adjectives
- vreemd genoeg, zoet genoeg, lekker genoeg
- after adverbs
- vaak genoeg
- before verbs
- genoeg gegeten, genoeg te doen
- before and after nouns
- genoeg water, water genoeg, genoeg glazen, glazen genoeg
- and probably other uses? --Erik Warmelink 16:28, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
- Sure. I don't know any Dutch, and don't know which of the following solutions is best, but such things are often (a) exemplified using example sentences, (b) described in a "Usage notes" section, or (c) both.—msh210℠ (talk) 16:32, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
- At the moment, I can't write it either: I thought too long about it, and now almost everything seems grammatically OK. --Erik Warmelink 19:12, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
- Sure. I don't know any Dutch, and don't know which of the following solutions is best, but such things are often (a) exemplified using example sentences, (b) described in a "Usage notes" section, or (c) both.—msh210℠ (talk) 16:32, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
- But in that sentence it's an adverb, not an adjective or numeral, because it modifies something that's not a noun or pronoun. —CodeCat 12:39, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
- I think this really depends on how one looks at it. It could be considered an adjective, a determiner or a numeral. Van Dale defines it as a 'onbepaald telwoord' (indefinite numeral), so I'd go with that. How it behaves around different parts of speech should be duly noted in the Usage Notes section as suggested by Msh210. Jamesjiao → T ◊ C 20:43, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
- "Genoeg" kan vaak genoeg niet door een hoofdtelwoord worden vervangen. --Erik Warmelink 10:33, 10 March 2011 (UTC)