Talk:seagull
Latest comment: 12 years ago by -sche in topic RFV
Shouldn't this article simply say "gull (bird)", and all the rest deleted? As I understand it the meaning is identical, but gull is more correct. I may be wrong, of course.
213.208.107.91 03:07, 31 May 2005 (UTC)
- seagull is the more common term, at least in US English. Of particular interest to linguists is the variation (or lack thereof) of translations between the two terms. --Connel MacKenzie 06:11, 31 May 2005 (UTC)
- You're quite right, of course. What I had in the back of my mind was a belief that gull was the correct name in scientific usage. If this is true, maybe ut should be reflected in the article?
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Rfv-sense: (orthography) The symbol ̼ , which combines under a letter as a sort of accent. -- Liliana • 04:44, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
- [1][2][3][4][5] SpinningSpark 12:24, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
- Of SpinningSpark’s five linked examples, only №ˢ 1 and 3 use the term; №ˢ 2 and 4 merely describe the diacritic as resembling a seagull, whilst № 5 only mentions that (deprecated template usage) seagull is the diacritic’s name. Howbeit, I believe this page, describing the Unicode character “COMBINING SEAGULL BELOW” (Unicode hexadecimal code: U+033C), should be decisive in closing this discussion, seeing as this term is in clearly widespread use. — Raifʻhār Doremítzwr ~ (U · T · C) ~ 15:26, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
- I wouldn't take Unicode names as a definite source. For example, they call ︘ a brakcet (sic!). -- Liliana • 15:32, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
- Point taken, but that's a mistake, whereas calling that diacritic a seagull is not; that said, I think that, if their mistake is noteworthy enough, we should probably make a note of it (such as in the case of guillemets, which Unicode mistakenly calls guillemots). — Raifʻhār Doremítzwr ~ (U · T · C) ~ 16:40, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
- Apparently the Unicode folks have a thing for seabirds.—msh210℠ (talk) 19:13, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
- :-D — Raifʻhār Doremítzwr ~ (U · T · C) ~ 03:34, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
- Apparently the Unicode folks have a thing for seabirds.—msh210℠ (talk) 19:13, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
- Point taken, but that's a mistake, whereas calling that diacritic a seagull is not; that said, I think that, if their mistake is noteworthy enough, we should probably make a note of it (such as in the case of guillemets, which Unicode mistakenly calls guillemots). — Raifʻhār Doremítzwr ~ (U · T · C) ~ 16:40, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
- I wouldn't take Unicode names as a definite source. For example, they call ︘ a brakcet (sic!). -- Liliana • 15:32, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
- Of SpinningSpark’s five linked examples, only №ˢ 1 and 3 use the term; №ˢ 2 and 4 merely describe the diacritic as resembling a seagull, whilst № 5 only mentions that (deprecated template usage) seagull is the diacritic’s name. Howbeit, I believe this page, describing the Unicode character “COMBINING SEAGULL BELOW” (Unicode hexadecimal code: U+033C), should be decisive in closing this discussion, seeing as this term is in clearly widespread use. — Raifʻhār Doremítzwr ~ (U · T · C) ~ 15:26, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
- So, given that SpinningSpark has linked to several citations, and there are presumably more, can I close this as "clearly in use" without making someone actually put the quotations into the entry? (Just tryin' to save us all some time...) - -sche (discuss) 04:07, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
- Struck (kept). - -sche (discuss) 01:41, 11 March 2012 (UTC)