Talk:piss artist
Latest comment: 9 months ago by Overlordnat1 in topic RFV discussion: March–September 2023
Kept. See archived discussion of February 2008. 07:04, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
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Sense 3: "Someone who frequently ridicules others (takes the piss)." Equinox ◑ 03:23, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
- It's definitely a real thing but seems surprisingly hard to attest. Sense 2, where it essentially is defined as meaning pseud, is the one that should've been challenged. I've added one citation and three other possible ones to Citations:piss artist. --Overlordnat1 (talk) 09:43, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
- So it's not like piss-prophet, which specifically refers to quack medicine? I dont think I can get to the Siriol Troup book (google books literally just highlights an "a" when i click the link), but reading the second one i at first assumed that it (and pseud) were terms for doctors who falsely claim to have cures outside the reach of mainstream medical science ... with piss coming originally from a literal sense because of how some of them claim they can find evidence of diseases by inspecting urine. —Soap— 11:04, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
- That's the first time I've come across piss-prophet tbh. I suppose there may be a connection but I suspect that sense 2 of piss artist, if it exists, stems from the idea that, by trying or pretending to be an intellectual, a pseudointellectual is 'taking the piss' out of an intellectual. --Overlordnat1 (talk) 12:21, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
- Yeah that makes sense. A doctor wouldnt normally be called an artist even in sarcasm. —Soap— 11:26, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
- The more I think about it, the more I think we should change the definition of sense 3 slightly to "Someone who frequently ridicules or shows contempt for others (takes the piss).", add the citations I've put at the citations page to it and delete sense 2. What's everyone's thoughts on that? --Overlordnat1 (talk) 21:24, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
- Yeah that makes sense. A doctor wouldnt normally be called an artist even in sarcasm. —Soap— 11:26, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
- That's the first time I've come across piss-prophet tbh. I suppose there may be a connection but I suspect that sense 2 of piss artist, if it exists, stems from the idea that, by trying or pretending to be an intellectual, a pseudointellectual is 'taking the piss' out of an intellectual. --Overlordnat1 (talk) 12:21, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
- So it's not like piss-prophet, which specifically refers to quack medicine? I dont think I can get to the Siriol Troup book (google books literally just highlights an "a" when i click the link), but reading the second one i at first assumed that it (and pseud) were terms for doctors who falsely claim to have cures outside the reach of mainstream medical science ... with piss coming originally from a literal sense because of how some of them claim they can find evidence of diseases by inspecting urine. —Soap— 11:04, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
- Can someone add cites for the first two senses as well? Slang should all be cited if possible. - TheDaveRoss 18:59, 20 June 2023 (UTC)
- I’ve cited senses 1 and 3 now. Sense 2 is still uncited though and I’ve now moved the tag to that sense. Overlordnat1 (talk) 14:10, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
- Sense 2 RFV failed and deleted. --Overlordnat1 (talk) 19:05, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
- I’ve cited senses 1 and 3 now. Sense 2 is still uncited though and I’ve now moved the tag to that sense. Overlordnat1 (talk) 14:10, 5 August 2023 (UTC)