User talk:Orexan

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Enjoy your stay at Wiktionary! Vininn126 (talk) 12:03, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

Lemma and non-lemma forms of Turkish suffixes

I noticed you have reverted the changes I have made. I must say seeing your editing history I admire your great effort to contribute in Turkish. However, I also must say it was established that, if they exist among suffix forms, only forms include /i/ and /e/ should be regarded as lemma forms for Turkish language in Wiktionary, therefore other forms should be regarded as non-lemma forms and shown such as -ık:

Suffix

{{head|tr|suffix form}}

{{tr-def-suffix form|-ik||ı}}

1. Form of -ik after the vowels A / I.

so that those suffixes will be end up in Category:Turkish suffix forms and a part of Category:Turkish non-lemma forms, not of Category:Turkish lemmas as -ik should be. Sedataltundal (talk) 23:00, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

'However, I also must say it was established that, if they exist among suffix forms, only forms include /i/ and /e/ should be regarded as lemma forms for Turkish language in Wiktionary"

I'm not aware of this establishment, but it makes no sense. "ı" variants are alphabetically primary, not just in modern Turkish and in Ottoman Turkish. In Middle/Old/Proto Turkic "-ık" exists as "-ıg" or "-uk", not "-ik". In the suffix forms category I see all kinds of variants so it seems to be a free for all. I'll add the suffix form info so it falls into the category, I'll keep -ık as base form. Orexan (talk) 23:26, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

... yaşındayım

Could you add the IPA transcription of this (with all and stress) when you can? Rodrigo5260 (talk) 19:16, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

Sure thing. Orexan (talk) 12:21, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

turkish

it was to make -ca lemmas removed from classifying in -siz category. do it yourself then if you didn’t like Itidal (talk) 08:43, 17 June 2023 (UTC)

@Itidal Why would you possibly want to do that? All those lemmas have "-sız" and "-ca" both, why would it not be classified under both categories? What a ridiculous thing to say. When did suffixes in Turkish become mutually exclusive? Suffix categories undeniably have overlap since a word can take multiple suffixes, where does this arbitrary notion that they should only be categorized under the category of the last suffix come from? Are you actively trying to sabotage the website? Orexan (talk) 19:31, 17 June 2023 (UTC)

yeah i do Itidal (talk) 20:53, 18 June 2023 (UTC)

Turkish Liaison

Hi! I just realized that you've been removing some of the liaison from Turkish IPA transcriptions, as well as from the hyphenations. I just wanted to ask you to stop removing them. If I'm missing something or this is a misunderstanding, I'm down to engaging in a constructive dialogue! Kakaeater (talk) 17:19, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Help:IPA/Turkish is the general practice for IPA notations of Turkish words. Most editors don't know what any IPA symbol does, and seeing how your edits are a complete mess, such as hyphenating beraber olmak as "be‧ra‧be‧rol‧mak", or putting a "*" before the conjugation template so it looks all wonky, or writing random labels in front of senses like "idiomatic" (what on earth is idiomatic about "to be together", it's the literal sense of the phrase), I assumed you also had no clue about what you were doing and were putting random symbols, so I simplified them as per the chart and cleaned up your edits. You wanna notate pronunciations microscopically accurate, go ahead and notate. But your pages need a decent clean-up, and you need to familiarize yourself with page layouts across the site, especially the Turkish section. Separate words aren't hyphenated like that, you use it in between words and in between syllables, you don't cut and merge syllables of two words; remove the "*" on the conjugation line; remove this "idiomatic" label, neither of those senses are nowhere near idioms; and for the most part avoid adding entries that aren't listed on the updated version of {{R:tr:TDK}} dictionary, unless it's a very commonly used and well-known word/phrase. If it is listed on {{R:tr:TDK}}, make sure to include this under Further reading, I know from 1st hand experience that official dictionaries help a lot to learners. Orexan (talk) 06:35, 8 June 2024 (UTC)