Talk:два

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Latest comment: 1 year ago by Voltaigne in topic Plurality
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@Benwing2: Hi. There's a link issue at the declension table. It's linking to двумя́ but should be to двумя.

I've added inflection forms manually, please see, if you agree.--Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 12:10, 21 June 2018 (UTC)Reply

It's a manual declension table (at Template:ru-decl-num2), not a module issue. I've fixed it, but the table should be updated to use link templates instead of plain links with span tags. --WikiTiki89 12:54, 21 June 2018 (UTC)Reply
@Wikitiki89: Thanks. Sorry, I should've known better, since I edited Template:ru-decl-num2. --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 13:06, 21 June 2018 (UTC)Reply

Plurality[edit]

@Benwing2, Voltaigne: Should the numerals have plurality in the gender parameter set as 'p'? It makes sense. They are not singular, even by the declension endings. "два" would belong to "dual", if it still existed. I already changed entries Ukrainian оби́два (obýdva) and Russian о́ба (óba) to plural. Apparently, it's not just for these two languages. Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 05:08, 26 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

It's probably just the header that needs updating. The declension table already show "plural". --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 05:12, 26 July 2022 (UTC)Reply
I suggest it might be excessive/superfluous to add a "pl" label to the headword of all plural numerals. "m/f/n" gender labels are provided where there are variant forms for different genders. We presumably add "pl" to the headwords of pluralia tantum nouns because this highlights to the reader that such nouns should be treated grammatically as plural and govern plural verbs even if their meanings are not obviously associated with plurality (e.g. две́рі (dvéri), дро́ва (dróva), usta, etc.). However, there can be instances (depending on a particular language's grammar rules) where a numeral that is plural in its meaning may not govern a plural verb. Voltaigne (talk) 13:15, 26 July 2022 (UTC)Reply