Talk:-sion

RFD discussion: December 2017–September 2018

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-sion

I think this is a conceptual error. Historically English words ending in sion are actually from Latin verb stems ending s + -ion or borrowings from Latin nouns, directly or via French. I note that the only etymologically linked from this term are reversion (historically < Latin reversio) = revert/reverse + -ion and suspension (historically from Late Latin suspensio) = suspend/suspense + -ion. DCDuring (talk) 16:50, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

Yes, it is -ion, Delete. Palaestrator verborum (loquier) 08:31, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

Delete unless there are examples of this being added to terms where the root/etymon does not have the s. (Strictly speaking, that's an RFV question.) - -sche (discuss) 23:26, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

• I think we should keep this. In many cases in Latin these come from the combination of a number of verb stems, plus the suffix -tio (e.g. fundo + -tio = fusio, fusionis, whence fusion) In these cases, it's defensible to consider a -sion ending, as the English inheritance of that inflected -tio ending. The English version unproductive as far as I can tell, and it doesn't account for the words ending in "-sion" which are the -s--stem + -ion words. But it's a helpful linguistic unit for understanding the construction of these words, and I think the definition is very clear about the narrow scope of this suffix. --SanctMinimalicen (talk) 03:29, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

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Kept. No consensus.--Jusjih (talk) 03:39, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

Not a Suffix

-tion is not a suffix. Only the -ion portion is the suffix. The <t> is part of the base. For example, <Act + ion -> action>, <Opt + ion -> option>. The same is true of -sion, -xion, and -cion, and other variations thereof. Identifying these as suffixes is incorrect. https://languageinnerviews.com/2017/08/02/debunking-the-myth/ LinguisticsGirl.Librarian (talk) 22:27, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

-sion is not a suffix. Only the -ion portion is the suffix. The -sion is not a suffix. Only the -ion portion is the suffix. The is part of the base. For example, <fuse + ion -> fusion>, <Vise + ion -> vision>. The same is true of -toon, -xion, and -cion, and other variations thereof. Identifying these as suffixes is incorrect. LinguisticsGirl.Librarian (talk) 22:30, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

RFD discussion: May–September 2019

See Talk:-tion#RFD discussion: May–September 2019.