Talk:albuminurophobia
Latest comment: 2 years ago by AG202 in topic RFV discussion: August–November 2021
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I only found word lists; the quotation in the entry is not durably archived. J3133 (talk) 06:45, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
- @J3133: There are 3 citations from Google Books, durably archived. Is that not enough?--4SnavaA (talk) 15:55, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
- The references are word lists, essentially dictionary entries, not uses in normal writing. Vox Sciurorum (talk) 16:18, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
- I managed to find one use (a statement that this is a surprisingly common phobia), but everything else was just lists of phobias. Slightly less mention-y is an article I found on phobias that specifies albuminurophobia as an example of a phobia that makes sense, but it was in an article about phobia words, so I still thought it failed the true "use" criterion. Kiwima (talk) 22:08, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Kiwima, Vox Sciurorum: Are dictionaries or word lists not considered as a citation? Whatever, there are 3 Quotes now.--4SnavaA (talk) 02:31, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
- @4SnavaA: Dictionaries and word lists are not considered valid citations because of the use/mention distinction. A definition of a word, or a usage example, are not valid citations. A valid citation must be used to convey information above and beyond "this is the meaning of the word". Also, we don't really have three citations, because only one of them is permanently archived. Kiwima (talk) 04:04, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Kiwima: What do you mean by only one of them is permanently archived? According to Criteria for inclusion, A term should be included if it's likely that someone would run across it and want to know what it means; so for this term which appears on the Internet, it is likely that someone would run across it and want to know what it means.--4SnavaA (talk) 05:43, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
- On the "permanently/durably recorded/archived" issue, see the latest at Wiktionary:Beer_parlour/2021/August#Clarify_what_web_pages_count_as_"permanently_recorded"_for_WT:ATTEST. Mihia (talk) 17:48, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Kiwima: What do you mean by only one of them is permanently archived? According to Criteria for inclusion, A term should be included if it's likely that someone would run across it and want to know what it means; so for this term which appears on the Internet, it is likely that someone would run across it and want to know what it means.--4SnavaA (talk) 05:43, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
- @4SnavaA: Dictionaries and word lists are not considered valid citations because of the use/mention distinction. A definition of a word, or a usage example, are not valid citations. A valid citation must be used to convey information above and beyond "this is the meaning of the word". Also, we don't really have three citations, because only one of them is permanently archived. Kiwima (talk) 04:04, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
- @Kiwima, Vox Sciurorum: Are dictionaries or word lists not considered as a citation? Whatever, there are 3 Quotes now.--4SnavaA (talk) 02:31, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
- I managed to find one use (a statement that this is a surprisingly common phobia), but everything else was just lists of phobias. Slightly less mention-y is an article I found on phobias that specifies albuminurophobia as an example of a phobia that makes sense, but it was in an article about phobia words, so I still thought it failed the true "use" criterion. Kiwima (talk) 22:08, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
- The references are word lists, essentially dictionary entries, not uses in normal writing. Vox Sciurorum (talk) 16:18, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
- RFV-failed —Svārtava [t•c•u•r] 10:12, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
- Reopening and cited with two additional uses (in addition to the one that Kiwima added). AG202 (talk) 03:27, 24 November 2021 (UTC)