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Latin - feminine singular aliquae

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Quotes from dictionaries and the like:

  • L&S: "ălĭqui, aliqua, aliquod [...] nom. fem. sing. and neutr. plur. were originally aliquae, analogous to the simple quae, from qui: “tam quam aliquae res Verberet,” Lucr. 4, 263, and Cic. Fam. 6, 20, 2 MS."
  • Lewis: "aliquī aliqua, aliquod"
  • Gaffiot: "ălĭquī, quă, quŏd [...] la forme aliquae nom. sing. fém. ne se trouve que dans Lucr. 4, 263; Cic. Fam. 6, 20, 2 (M); les formes du plur. sont rares à l'ép. classique."
  • F. Neue (vol. II, p. 237): "Aliquae als Femin. Sing. ist sehr selten [aliquae as feminine singular is very rare]. Sin aliquae res eum vel impediet vel morabitur Cic. Fam. 6, 20, 2 im Med., tamquam aliquae res verberet Lucr. 4, 263. Lachmann zu Lucr. 4, 638 führt aus Fest. S. 254 an: Quispiam quin significet aliquis, et quaepiam aliquae."
  • Georges: "fem.: aliquae res, Lucr. 4, 261: quaepiam aliquae, Fest. 254" and "Plur. Femin, aliquae, adj. Lucr. 4, 261 (aliquae res)"

So it seems like aliqua is the usual feminine singular form and that there are only three possible sources for the feminine singular aliquae:

  • Cic. Fam. 6, 20, 2 in a manuscript - and other manuscripts could have another form. TLL has it as "sin—quoniam multa accidere possunt—aliqua res eum vel impediet vel morabitur", so it likely depends on manuscript or edition.
  • Lucr. 4, 261 or Lucr. 4, 263 - the number could be doubtful as rēs is singular and plural; TLL has aliquae too.
  • Fest. 254 - which could be a problematic source (w:Sextus Pompeius Festus). archive.org/stream/deverborumsignif00festuoft#page/338/mode/2up has "Quispiam quin significet aliquis, et quaepiam aliquae +, similiter qui + alia eiusdem generis, ut dubium non est, ita ut + unde sequens pars eius coperit +, inveniri non potest." ("Festi fragm. e cod. farn.") and "Quispiam significat aliquem, sed unde sequens pars eius usurpari coeperit, inveniri non potest." ("Pauli excerpta").

So maybe there should be a note about the feminine singular aliquae.
BTW: There is a source for the dative form aliquoi (for alicui) of aliqui or aliquis. However, this depends on edition. TLL has it with aliquoi ("nihil est miserius quam ubi aliquoi ex miseria sua invidia quaeritur."); results at GB have it with aliquoi (rarer) or alicui (more common). -80.133.125.56 20:31, 30 April 2017 (UTC)Reply