Talk:never change a running system

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RFV discussion: April–June 2023[edit]

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It seems like a pseudo-anglicism, as opposed to an actual English proverb, and thus doesn't belong under an English language header. Megathonic (talk) 13:43, 26 April 2023 (UTC)Reply

It seems SoP. It is a flat, boring definition of more colorful and common expressions like if it ain't broke don't fix it. IOW, it seems more deserving an RfD. DCDuring (talk) 16:43, 26 April 2023 (UTC)Reply

Easy to verify. Sending to WT:RFDE#never change a running system. This, that and the other (talk) 11:13, 5 June 2023 (UTC)Reply

RFD discussion: April 2023–January 2024[edit]

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It seems like a pseudo-anglicism, as opposed to an actual English proverb, and thus doesn't belong under an English language header. Megathonic (talk) 13:43, 26 April 2023 (UTC)Reply

It seems SoP. It is a flat, boring definition of more colorful and common expressions like if it ain't broke don't fix it. IOW, it seems more deserving an RfD. DCDuring (talk) 16:43, 26 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
Agreed. Delete. --Overlordnat1 (talk) 11:42, 5 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
Remark. It is obviously a variation of never change a winning team, which I think is a far more common saying than don't change a winning team.  --Lambiam 10:22, 7 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
Keep - it’s a proverb, and which is not something that can be deduced from the constituents alone. It has essentially the same meaning as if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Theknightwho (talk) 10:34, 5 September 2023 (UTC)Reply
Keep per TKW. It's not entirely SOP because of the potential polysemy of "running", e.g. it's not, in this case, just telling you to shut down a programme before you make changes to it, which might be the more natural interpretation out of context. It has at least one third-party dictionary entry (Farlex Dictionary of Idioms). I've also added various quotations citing it as a proverb. It's true that this apparently originated in Germany but it isn't a pseudo-Anglicism in the sense that, say, French smoking is; it makes perfect sense in English and looks widely attested in English-language publications. —Al-Muqanna المقنع (talk) 12:16, 5 September 2023 (UTC)Reply
Keep - the proverb is not covered by "winning team" since it applies to systems (machines, processes, methods, etc). The team can be winner becasue of the methods or tactics their members use, meantime the team remains the same, changing their system may get them to lose.