Talk:selbst

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This needs a POS. Is it a pronoun or a particle? Rod (A. Smith) 03:30, 22 July 2006 (UTC)Reply

In my opinion it is an adverb. It's only called a pronoun for etymological reasons. "Selbst" and "selber" are uninflected like adverbs and they can be replaced with other synonymic adverbs, e.g. ich selbst = ich persönlich. I'm changing this now.Kolmiel (talk) 15:35, 19 February 2014 (UTC)Reply
"In my opinion" - that's a good source. How about everybody adding his opinion? How about doing it like at Wikipedia and using references/citations? www.dwds.de/?qu=selbst & woerterbuchnetz.de/DWB/?lemma=selbst ~> pronoun; www.duden.de/rechtschreibung/selbst ~> particle. -91.63.240.168 20:51, 23 November 2014 (UTC)Reply
This is not Wikipedia and our circumstances are not like Wikipedia's. What works for Wikipedia does not work here. Wikipedia forbids original research, while we encourage original research. Here we copy little from printed sources, and most of our words, definitions, and examples come from original thinking by educated native speakers.
Nobody does Wikipedia like Wikipedia, and if you want to see Wikipedia, you should stick to Wikipedia. If you need anything that we have to offer here, you should remember that this is NOT Wikipedia and not like Wikipedia. —Stephen (Talk) 07:59, 24 November 2014 (UTC)Reply
Thank you for clarifying this, Stephen. The IP's statement is, of course, contrary to the way we work here on wiktionary, but it's also impertinent seeing the degree to which the user butchered the article, deleting stuff, etc., based on nothing but their own personal opinion. Kolmiel (talk) 19:42, 21 March 2016 (UTC)Reply
Apart from this, I don't insist on "selbst" being an adverb, though I think it's the most correct and certainly the easiest way of understanding it. Kolmiel (talk) 19:48, 21 March 2016 (UTC)Reply

RFC discussion: May 2007

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Is this a noun? Should it be capitalized, then? --Connel MacKenzie 16:40, 30 May 2007 (UTC)Reply

It’s a pronoun. Cleaned up. —Stephen 20:13, 31 May 2007 (UTC)Reply