Talk:squash player
Latest comment: 4 years ago by Dan Polansky in topic RFD discussion: September 2019–May 2020
Searches and links[edit]
Some searches to support WT:THUB:
- google books:squashista
- google books:skvošista (compare skvoš)
- google books:сквошист (compare сквош)
- Q16278103 on Wikidata.Wikidata
--Dan Polansky (talk) 12:35, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
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I have a feeling we had an epic discussion about these kind of entries before. Still seems SOP to me. --Mélange a trois (talk) 10:20, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
- I think we keep them if they have translations that are not SoP. SemperBlotto (talk) 10:32, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
- tennis player was discussed. Supposedly it's not SoP because it's someone who plays professionally (which is not true at all: "I'm a bad tennis player" doesn't mean I'm a pro, just that I play). Apparently people want to keep them so whatever. Equinox ◑ 10:53, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
- Well, it relates to the sport, not the vegetable or a drink of squash. DonnanZ (talk) 11:20, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
- Are you saying I can't play with my squash? -Mike (talk) 15:24, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
- Hula dancers play the gourd. You should learn to play the squash. --Lambiam 11:31, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
- Are you saying I can't play with my squash? -Mike (talk) 15:24, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
- Keep. It is useful to distinguish between sports where the participant is known as a Foo player, and those where the participant is known as a fooer (e.g., golfer and bowler, not golf player and bowling player). In some cases, this distinction has real implications - for example, a footballer plays association football (i.e. soccer), while a football player plays American football. bd2412 T 01:47, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
- I doubt that the distinction is that sharp: [1], [2], [3]. --Lambiam 20:38, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
- Informal instances rare enough that they wouldn't count as a common misspelling are of minimal lexicological value. Find me a "bowling player", though. Then we'll be talking. bd2412 T 03:06, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
- I doubt that the distinction is that sharp: [1], [2], [3]. --Lambiam 20:38, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
- WT:THUB would protect it if we can find reliably attested supporting terms. Czech squashista would contribute to THUB but seems sub-attested (not 3 quotations, Citations:squashista). German Squashspieler would not contribute to THUB as currently drafted.
Also of interest is squasher, squash player at Google Ngram Viewer; an unvoted-on analogue of COALMINE would have us include squash player as a much more common synonym of an attested single-word term.(As an aside, Talk:tennis player#RFD 2 often invoked "translation target" as the keeping rationale.) --Dan Polansky (talk) 07:00, 22 September 2019 (UTC)- I spoke too soon: squasher does exist, but does not seem to mean squash player. Then, the argument by bd2412 is of note: this is the term actually used while another term could have been used (squasher). --Dan Polansky (talk) 07:18, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
- Czech squashista is now attested in Citations:squashista. Can we find one more language to support WT:THUB? --Dan Polansky (talk) 11:24, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
- Keep per WT:THUB via Czech squashista and German Squasher; if someone could show Dutch squasher is attested, that would be a third item, but two are enough per current WT:THUB. --Dan Polansky (talk) 13:14, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
- RFD-kept: no consensus for deletion. --Dan Polansky (talk) 10:16, 2 May 2020 (UTC)