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:After looking through today's edits, I see that you are, in fact, slowing down, and you are attempting to cite your new creations. Consequently, I have removed the block. When I saw recent changes full of your edits, and one of them already rfv'd, I guess I simply overreacted. I apologize for my undue haste. If I might make a suggestion, it would probably go a long way to restoring your standing with the community if you went through your old entries, especially the ones currently in [[WT:RFV]], and cite them. -[[User:Atelaes|Atelaes]] <small>[[User talk:Atelaes|λάλει ἐμοί]]</small> 01:29, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
 
:After looking through today's edits, I see that you are, in fact, slowing down, and you are attempting to cite your new creations. Consequently, I have removed the block. When I saw recent changes full of your edits, and one of them already rfv'd, I guess I simply overreacted. I apologize for my undue haste. If I might make a suggestion, it would probably go a long way to restoring your standing with the community if you went through your old entries, especially the ones currently in [[WT:RFV]], and cite them. -[[User:Atelaes|Atelaes]] <small>[[User talk:Atelaes|λάλει ἐμοί]]</small> 01:29, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
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::I have edited on Wikipedia for years with little issues that could not be resolved and have become a knowledgeable editor, however without having made mistakes or collaborating I never would have been able to move forward and that is the point of all wikis. I find it unfortunate how draconian and plutocratic some users here would like things to be. I try to create things as best I can and I don't neglect entries created previously, and especially when I find a good citation for a hard to cite term I go back. Nevertheless a cursory look at the word of the day shows that most entries have no citations at all. Now I make sure to cite any of the vulgarities that I encounter but plain slang in addition to all other terms should be fair game to be left in a basic template state if there isn't time or available sources immediately. In many cases other users have been able to add some via usenet, a source I have never understood. Simple google searches and admissions from other edits are that they have heard the term in most cases so it's all in good faith. Over time I have gone over many old entries and added i.e. sg = [[]] [[]] to two word compounds and will continue to do so. The markup is difficult to learn but I have worked on it. Of course I will make mistakes but I can catch them later, sometimes other editors edit conflict correct me while I am still in progress creating an entry and figuring out the markup and they whine at me, very impatient and frustrating. I also have some learning disabilities that make it hard for me to learn things quickly and make it so I forget things I have learned previously. I'll keep altering my approach based on feedback but demands from some editors that I only create entries for the subjects they arbitrarily deem fit are uncalled for and lead me to disregard their communications as this is just bullying. Everyone here is free to edit what they wish on a free dictionary, it's sort of the point. I will say I was a bit confused as to why I got blocked for "slow down" when I only made 10 edits today, most of them to just 4 entries, and yesterday all I did was work on Spanish language animal sounds which I would think is extremely uncontroversial, especially since they are all included at RAE.es. Psychmological was RFV'd, I was certain it was a legitimate term but could only find one seemingly suitable cite but I thought others would be aware of the term and one was, another editor chipped in and added more cites after I listed it on RFV myself to protest its quick deletion. Ejamactional was one I was able to cite and I was told by other editors that I made up the words, but clearly I did not. I am more than willing to go through my old entries for sure, although I have forgotten what some of the accounts were, thankfully most are medically related, intitialisms, and vulgarities. But I will continue to work on them regardless. I noticed on the block log you unblocked me but my IP address is still blocked thus blocking my account. It's okay I think you just blocked me in good faith albeit hastily and without any due process, thanks for unblocking me instead of just forgetting about it.[[User:Luciferwildcat|Lucifer]] ([[User talk:Luciferwildcat|talk]]) 02:16, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

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You may have noticed that you've been blocked by me. We haven't really interacted yet, and so I thought I'd take a second to explain myself. You need to slow down. You also need to learn some wiki culture, especially Wiktionary specific stuff. You're producing a lot of good work, but you're also producing a lot of crap, and at the speed you're going, we can't sift through everything and separate the two. So, first off, we do, in fact, want modern slang terms here on Wiktionary. However, they absolutely must be cited. Your practice of creating them (typically sloppily, I might add), and then whining when people rfv, rfd, outright delete them is unacceptable. If you are to continue to create these sorts of entries, you need to learn how to cite them, otherwise you're just wasting everyone's time. You have a day off. Spend some time looking at what others are doing to get your entries up to snuff and start doing it yourself. I hope you don't take this too badly, as you have the potential to be a very useful editor here, but you have to alter your approach. -Atelaes λάλει ἐμοί 01:04, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

After looking through today's edits, I see that you are, in fact, slowing down, and you are attempting to cite your new creations. Consequently, I have removed the block. When I saw recent changes full of your edits, and one of them already rfv'd, I guess I simply overreacted. I apologize for my undue haste. If I might make a suggestion, it would probably go a long way to restoring your standing with the community if you went through your old entries, especially the ones currently in WT:RFV, and cite them. -Atelaes λάλει ἐμοί 01:29, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
I have edited on Wikipedia for years with little issues that could not be resolved and have become a knowledgeable editor, however without having made mistakes or collaborating I never would have been able to move forward and that is the point of all wikis. I find it unfortunate how draconian and plutocratic some users here would like things to be. I try to create things as best I can and I don't neglect entries created previously, and especially when I find a good citation for a hard to cite term I go back. Nevertheless a cursory look at the word of the day shows that most entries have no citations at all. Now I make sure to cite any of the vulgarities that I encounter but plain slang in addition to all other terms should be fair game to be left in a basic template state if there isn't time or available sources immediately. In many cases other users have been able to add some via usenet, a source I have never understood. Simple google searches and admissions from other edits are that they have heard the term in most cases so it's all in good faith. Over time I have gone over many old entries and added i.e. sg = [[]] [[]] to two word compounds and will continue to do so. The markup is difficult to learn but I have worked on it. Of course I will make mistakes but I can catch them later, sometimes other editors edit conflict correct me while I am still in progress creating an entry and figuring out the markup and they whine at me, very impatient and frustrating. I also have some learning disabilities that make it hard for me to learn things quickly and make it so I forget things I have learned previously. I'll keep altering my approach based on feedback but demands from some editors that I only create entries for the subjects they arbitrarily deem fit are uncalled for and lead me to disregard their communications as this is just bullying. Everyone here is free to edit what they wish on a free dictionary, it's sort of the point. I will say I was a bit confused as to why I got blocked for "slow down" when I only made 10 edits today, most of them to just 4 entries, and yesterday all I did was work on Spanish language animal sounds which I would think is extremely uncontroversial, especially since they are all included at RAE.es. Psychmological was RFV'd, I was certain it was a legitimate term but could only find one seemingly suitable cite but I thought others would be aware of the term and one was, another editor chipped in and added more cites after I listed it on RFV myself to protest its quick deletion. Ejamactional was one I was able to cite and I was told by other editors that I made up the words, but clearly I did not. I am more than willing to go through my old entries for sure, although I have forgotten what some of the accounts were, thankfully most are medically related, intitialisms, and vulgarities. But I will continue to work on them regardless. I noticed on the block log you unblocked me but my IP address is still blocked thus blocking my account. It's okay I think you just blocked me in good faith albeit hastily and without any due process, thanks for unblocking me instead of just forgetting about it.Lucifer (talk) 02:16, 8 April 2012 (UTC)