Talk:ปี่

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Flute[edit]

I don't believe ปี่ is ever used to refer to a flute, whereas it is used to refer to various oboes and free-reed pipes. Which flute does it refer to? 24.29.228.33 06:26, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

ปี่แก้ว = glass flute
ปี่ไฉน = Thai flute
ปี่ชวา = Java flute
ปี่นอก = Western flute —Stephen 08:18, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

The first is an oboe (or a metaphorical description thereof), the second is an oboe, the third is an oboe, and the fourth is an oboe. None is a flute. How do you get that these terms refer to flutes? A flute and an oboe are quite different instruments, and we should not conflate them. 24.29.228.33 08:30, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Why do you call them oboes? To me, they’re flutes. —Stephen 09:07, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

A flute has no reed at all, while an oboe has a double or quadruple reed. An instrument with any kind of reed is never called a flute. Thai music does have a flute, and it is called ขลุ่ย. In Thai, the Western flute is apparently called ฟลุต. 24.29.228.33 09:23, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

You can see the small double reed in this photo.

Oboe modern.jpg

24.29.228.33 09:28, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

The reed in the photo is clear. ปี่นอก, etc., has a reed like an oboe? I didn’t remember seeing something that looked like a reed. Maybe the reed was inside. —Stephen 09:30, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

This information is readily available via Google Images, etc. See [1]. I play a number of these instruments and can assure you that every type of ปี่ has a quadruple reed save the ปี่จุม, which is a free reed pipe. 24.29.228.33 09:51, 16 December 2008 (UTC)