Talk:馬達

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RFV discussion: July–October 2015[edit]

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Rfv-sense "policewoman": Wiktionary:Tea_room/2015/July#馬達 —suzukaze (t・c) 00:57, 13 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]


Hello. Sorry. I didn't see this in time. I already added reference. --Octahedron80 (talk) 04:57, 18 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Octahedron80 Could you translate the part(s) in the references where it says that 馬達 means madam/policewoman? Does it mention any film in particular? — justin(r)leung { (t...) | c=› } 04:01, 27 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
It is too many paragraphes for me; we have to read through the blue message (of a letter) then we could understand how the term comes. A line said, "คนจีนกวางตุ้งออกเสียงว่า “หมาด๋ำ” เวลาเขียนเป็นตัวหนังสือจะยืมเสียงที่คล้ายกันมาเขียน คือ 马达 ออกเสียงแบบจีนกลางว่า “หม่าต๋า” ใช้เรียกตำรวจหญิง หรือข้าราชการผู้หญิงระดับสูง" [Cantonese people read it 'má-dám'. To be written, it will borrow the similar pronunciation 马达, read as 'mǎ-dá' in Mandarin. It is used to call policewoman, or higher woman officer]. The last line said, "ดังนั้นในภาษาจีนทั้งคำว่า Madam และคำว่า Motor จึงมีภาษาเขียนเหมือนกันว่า 马达 (หม่าต๋า)" [So in Chinese word for madam and motor would be written with the same word: 马达]. And I don't know how often used or which movie because they are the pre-digital media; it might be older than my age. The real thing is that หมาต๋า still exists. --Octahedron80 (talk) 04:12, 27 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Octahedron80 (sorry for the late reply) I'm not really sure, but I don't think this would pass RFV just with this reference. How is it read in Thai? If there's no -m at the end, I would suggest the possibility for it to be related to the Singaporean/Malaysian Chinese word for police, which is 馬打 (má-tâ in Hokkien, sometimes indeed written as 馬達). — justin(r)leung { (t...) | c=› } 04:46, 16 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
It might be from 馬打 as you suggest. Any way, I don't see má-tâ in written form either 馬打 or 馬達 somewhere other than my refs. --Octahedron80 (talk) 04:53, 17 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Octahedron80: Take a look at Talk:bā-tā and 馬打 itself. — justin(r)leung { (t...) | c=› } 04:57, 17 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

RFV discussion: January–October 2017[edit]

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Rfv-sense: both senses in etymology 2. It is still a bit dubious with the references given. — justin(r)leung { (t...) | c=› } 04:49, 17 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Replaced with {{zh-see|馬打}}. Originally created as the etymon for หมาต๋า (mǎa-dtǎa), but Southeast Asian 馬打／马打 (mǎdǎ) (also written 馬達／马达 (mǎdá)) is a more probable etymon. — justin(r)leung { (t...) | c=› } 05:57, 10 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]


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