Talk:Gounder

RFV discussion: November 2022–March 2023

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Gounder

Almost certainly not attestable in the senses listed, but a capitalized form might exist as a title of some kind. The editor who added this doesn't seem to have a clue in general, adding various Tamil words as English ones... — SURJECTION ^{/ T / C / L /} 15:29, 13 November 2022 (UTC)

reliable references to verify the page:

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— This unsigned comment was added by Phonex01 (talk • contribs) at 00:36, 23 November 2022.

@Phonex01 Thank you. Based on those references and some superficial searching of my own, I do actually think this is a word/title in English, but it should probably be capitalized, and the definition needs to be more specific (e.g. "a member of a South Indian agricultural caste"). 98.170.164.88 00:49, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

It's a surname/title which denotes "protector of the country" as Wikipedia's source. As the 3rd reference (if you translate it to english), "A counter(Gounder) was a ruler of Rashtrakuta kings, Nulamba Pallava vendars, a country or town in power. He was called Kamundan. It seems that this name came to this country and was changed to Kaminda - Kamunda - Kaminda, the name of the village rich people got it and later it was changed to Kavanda - Kaunda and then it was changed to Kavanda - Kaunda according to the inscription researchers."

Presently it's used many castes to get high status. I hope it helps. Phonex01 (talk) 01:36, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

A Tamil Wikipedia entry provides no evidence to how the English word is used. The English Wikipedia entry is about a title, not about an English word meaning "protector of the country and its people" or "powerful leader of the town and village". Wikipedia cannot be used as cites in any case. — SURJECTION ^{/ T / C / L /} 06:49, 25 November 2022 (UTC)

You can compare the page with Gowda and Khatri if you think the page is incorrect. Gounder and Gowda are similar titles.

For more details read. [4] [5] Phonex01 (talk) 14:57, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

 Cited, I changed the definition to match Wikipedia's. Ioaxxere (talk) 01:33, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

RFV Failed. Ioaxxere (talk) 04:43, 3 March 2023 (UTC)