Talk:Nazndah

RFV discussion: February–March 2023

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Nazndah

Can't find this in durably archived sources. There are a couple people with this surname on Google, but it seems weird to document it if it has never appeared in print, and I'm not sure where the alleged etymology came from (what's the spelling of this in Arabic?). 70.172.194.25 04:16, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

Maybe there is no spelling in Arabic .... here and there we can find what I call "Ellis Island surnames", born when an immigrant from another country either chooses a new name, or is given a name that is nonstandardly transcribed from their alphabet. There is a female given name Nazandah, and perhaps this surname is a version of that name which for whatever reason lost its middle -a-. —Soap— 13:17, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

That female given name is from Persian, not Arabic. 70.172.194.25 17:48, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

Actually, given that the cluster /nd/ is not very common in Arabic, maybe the surname is Persian too. I still think it's an error of some sort ... I've seen it just a few times before .... where someone moving to a new country, especially one with a different alphabet, ends up with a mistranscribed version of their name and the family just decides to let it stay. I only bring this up because I suspect that there simply isn't a Persian or Arabic alphabet version of this name, so searching for verification that way will be a waste of time.

Anyway, I guess what I really mean to ask both for this and for #Mozela above is ... how do we verify surnames? Are surnames simply covered by the traditional policy of having three independent citations in durable sources? In that case the only way to save this entry would be to turn up the Persian/Arabic form of the script, but even if we find that, I suspect it would be indistinguishable from Nazandah, which may be how their name got to be spelled this way to begin with. —Soap— 13:06, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

I assume we are looking for three CFI-compliant citations in English that use this surname. 70.172.194.25 16:33, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

RFV Failed. Ioaxxere (talk) 04:43, 3 March 2023 (UTC)