Talk:autistic
I find it most infuriating that whoever wrote this definition realizes "idiot savant" is "potentially offensive" but doesn't apply the same reasoning to "suffering from autism." I don't suffer from autism, I suffer from a lack of acceptance - just as I don't suffer from being gay, but from a lack of acceptance for it as well (yes, one can be both. they aren't mutually exclusive categories). 71.191.95.3 23:30, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
- Let's not get personal here. What exactly are you trying to say? What do you mean by "...but doesn't apply the same reasoning to..."? Do you mean the same tag should be placed on 'suffering from autism' as well or? Jamesjiao → T ◊ C 23:42, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
- It's considered very offensive to describe an autistic person as "suffering from" autism (source: I am autistic, I am extremely involved in the autistic community; I have seen no autistic space where it was widely acceptable to describe someone as "suffering" from autism and have met no autistic person who thought that was the "best" description to use, although I've seen a few individuals who were okay with it for themselves). Using this phrasing is just as rude as using calling someone an "idiot savant". --76.166.191.112 01:00, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
Recent usage as a pejorative[edit]
Lately I've been seeing some people online using "autistic" as a synonym for "stupid" or "retarded". Anyone else notice this? DaL33T (talk) 06:15, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
- Yes. Gamren (talk) 10:12, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
- Not online, but IRL.--Simplificationalizer (talk) 22:45, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
Autist·ic stemming from autist + -ic?[edit]
https://www.etymonline.com/word/autistic
“autistic (adj.) 1912 (Bleuler), from autism (q.v.). Noun meaning "person with autism" is recorded from 1968 (earlier in this sense was autist).”
https://www.etymonline.com/word/autism
“autism (n.) · 1912, from German Autismus, coined 1912 by Swiss psychiatrist Paul Bleuler from Greek autos "self" (see auto-) + -ismos suffix of action or of state.” 8.40.31.230 13:58, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
- https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Talk:autist#About_“Autist”_being_“Back-formation_from_autistic”,_or_“Autistic”_being_“Autist_+_-ic” 8.40.31.230 14:09, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autism_spectrum#History
- “The New Latin word autismus (English translation autism) was coined by the Swiss psychiatrist [Paul] Eugen Bleuler in 1910 (…). He derived it from the Greek word: αὐτός, romanized: autós, lit. 'self' (…). A Soviet child psychiatrist, Grunya Sukhareva, described a similar syndrome in Russian in 1925, and in German in 1926.” 8.40.31.230 14:26, 8 July 2022 (UTC)