Talk:flat white

Origins

Despite flat whites (both the drinks themselves and the use of this term to describe them) being popularised in Australia and New Zealand in the 80s, the actual origin seems clearly to be 1960s London - there was a play published in 1962 [1] and a film released in 1963 [2] that use the term in the context of a milky espresso-based drink. Besides this fact, the drink itself is popular everywhere on the globe and the term flat white to describe it is universal in the English-speaking world (no one in their right mind would even doubt for a second that the term is used in the U.K and there’s a character in a book on GoogleBooks, who’s clearly meant to be Irish (they call someone an eejit), who orders a flat white). On that basis I’ve removed the Aus and NZ tags. Overlordnat1 (talk) 11:24, 5 February 2022 (UTC)

If the term is not understood in modern times outside of AU/NZ then we should note that somehow. Equinox ◑ 11:34, 5 February 2022 (UTC)

We could reflect that the term wasn’t widely understood or used outside of Australasia until relatively recently but it is understood in the current day everywhere now, so I suppose that depends on what you consider to be modern times. I do agree that ideally we’d reflect that the term was popularised in Aus/NZ somewhere. Overlordnat1 (talk) 11:47, 5 February 2022 (UTC)