Talk:gaunt

Verb

Is there a verb for gaunt?

PIE root

@Sgconlaw there's no way Old Norse gandr comes from PIE *gʷʰen-. *gʷʰ doesn't become PG *g before *a. (As if the semantics weren't suspicious enough. What would that even be—"striking tool > bent stick"?) — 2600:4808:9C31:4800:CC55:E44:C7:25BF 03:28, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

This was already in the etymology before I edited it. I just tidied it up. (The same etymology also appears at Icelandic gandur.) OED only mentions that the word might be related to Norwegian and Swedish, and goes no further. The suggested derivation from Old French is also from the OED. — Sgconlaw (talk) 04:26, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

I have posted a query about this at the Etymology Scriptorium. — Sgconlaw (talk) 15:18, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

Proto-Italic

@Djkcel: I don't think it's helpful to include a redlinked entry to a reconstructed form that only exists as a intermediate step between Proto-Indo-European and Latin, in light of the current consensus not to include 'Proto-Italic' forms with no descendants other than Latin as entries in Wiktionary. Furthermore, whether the Latin formation is genuinely antique seems to be debated; per De Vaan, "Schrijver argues that Lat. *genti- is a relatively recent formation, since PIE *ǵnh₁-ti- is continued in Latin by nātiō". Urszag (talk) 22:36, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

Makes sense, but I still think the best solution is to just stop at Latin and let users go from there, and put the rest in using template:dercat. I had done that, but SGConlaw put the PIE back in so I was just putting the PItc. form in so it didn't get "skipped." It's not the end of the world but I just don't want inconsistencies in all of the etyl chains. Perhaps the best solution is to leave it at Latin and then decide whether the Latin entry itself should keep the PItc? DJ K-Çel (contribs ~ talk) 22:42, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

I'm not sure 'skipping' forms in the written-out etymology is a big problem. I think people will be interested in the root, at least, so I'd favor something like " from Latin gēns (“clan, tribe; country, nation; family; people”), ultimately from the root *ǵenh₁-" rather than just ending with the Latin word.--Urszag (talk) 04:25, 18 September 2024 (UTC)