Talk:gestalt

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The big picture.

Note that in the German language the relation to "shape" (Form) ranges on rank 5 of the possible interpretations of the German word "Gestalt" -> http://www.dwds.de/?kompakt=1&qu=gestalt - the most intuitive association would be with a figure (physical appearance) instead. It's different in non-German languages as they did not took over the word itself but just its application in Gestalt theory where it's more a concept of appearance and impression rather than a real item. 83.125.40.36 01:00, 6 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

emergence of a living form, a human, a ghost, or something made by a human or animal - perception, neurology, Grand Illusion

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for example in German: "es kriegt Gestallt", or in my dutch language "het krijgt gestalte". It is used when talking about looking into a fog, or something coming out of a fog, darkness and slowly emerges a shape of a human, a ghost, a spooky house, maybe something animalistic, an animal, or something made by a creature and as you close it or it comes closer, out of the fog, you can perceive more and more details, you - your mind gradually manages to eliminate uncertainties and close in on what it might be. Or somebody drawing something in the game pictionary: with the first line, it can be many things, when a second curve is added, your brain can narrow it down what objects it could be, until a line is added that clicks in your brain and makes you perceive what the object finally is. It is a very important concept in neurology and psychology, psychiatry, pointing to how perception emerges from the brain and vision, and how the brain fills in blancs, or how we don't need all details to come to conclusions, get in a reasoning flow, heuristics is also related, obviously coming from specialist in these fields in the German language area. Cheers, SvenAERTS (talk) 11:11, 9 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

You're right. It means a "shape" or "silhouette", but that's German, not English. Look at Gestalt :) 90.186.170.60 22:36, 26 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

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Sense 2: "shape, form". My queries on this sense:

  • It might just be a literal translation of the German (see etymology) rather than something used in English.
  • "Shape, form" seems too vague anyhow: presumably this would not be used in geometry to describe hexagons etc.
  • Most damningly: the two existing citations strongly seem to belong to sense 1 (meaning something like "personality"). A meaning of "shape, form" makes little or no sense for those citations.

Equinox 11:33, 9 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

== Uber problem

Sense 2: In entrepreneurship, the situation where a startup company lacks a profitable business model. Equinox 13:26, 9 July 2023 (UTC)Reply