Talk:spuddle

RFV discussion: January–March 2022

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spuddle

Rfv-sense "(obsolete) To work ineffectively; to work hard but achieve nothing". Removed by IP in Special:Diff/65387958 with the summary "There is no evidence here or elsewhere to support that this is a legitimate definition". — SURJECTION ^{/ T / C / L /} 22:58, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

It's in OED as a sort of extended sense of "to puddle", described as "now dialect". EDD also has an entry. Overall our entry really misses the point. This, that and the other (talk) 06:58, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

There’s some interesting definitions of puddle in Wright’s dialect dictionary [1], some of which seem similar to the meanings that Wright and the OED give for spuddle and some rather different (for example the one relating to ‘Popish ceremonies’) and also the meaning that Wright gives for spuddle that refers to using a spud (the spade-like implement).

Some of the meaning of spuddle and puddle seem similar to pootle to me and our entry for pootle claims that it possibly came from an earlier form poodle, itself a word that probably came from the Low German word for puddle through the notion of splashing about in puddles being a pointless activity. My question is did the dialect senses of the word puddle (not currently on Wiktionary) derive directly from the standard English word puddle, perhaps via the notion of splashing in puddles in any case, or was it an alteration of an earlier word poodle? Another possibility is that the semantic and morphological similarity between puddle and poodle is a coincidence and that they are etymologically distinct. Overlordnat1 (talk) 20:23, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

cited Kiwima (talk) 23:37, 27 February 2022 (UTC)

RFV-passed Kiwima (talk) 23:49, 26 March 2022 (UTC)