Talk:stollen

Verification debate

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I personally have not seen or heard use of "stollen" as an English word. I don't believe it deserves an entry under ==English==. There are no /Citations supporting this listing. (If the English listing goes, then the German entry will need a defintion that is in real English.)--Richardb 13:28, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

• It is on sale in every English supermarket every Christmas. The word is never enclosed in quotation marks and is now part of the English language. This is from the "Concise Oxford" - stollen /shtolln, stolln/ • noun a rich German fruit and nut loaf. — ORIGIN German. SemperBlotto 13:33, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
  • I can back up what SemperBlotto is saying. No italics or capitalisation in sight when it's on sale in Sainsbury's - it's an English word now, much like panettone (yum!) — Paul G 06:21, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
    • One question, is the "oll" pronounce as in "follow" or "swollen"? Shoof 23:25, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

      AFAIK, no -oll words from modern German are pronounced as "swollen", so assume as "pollen" (or "follow"). --Enginear 12:05, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

      • Okay, so it's not pronounced like stolen then. Shoof 20:01, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

See WT:BJAODN. Removed the fun stuff. rfvpassed. Andrew massyn

Musical terminology

It may also be defined in musical terms as a "bar form" (AAB), see article by Russell Stinson "Neumeister Chorales" in the Journal of Musicology, 11(1993), P 459.

• It seems to be a German word - This is the "bar form" section of Grove online. - - - A term denoting in musicology the three-part form AAB. The sections are called first Stollen (pes; A), second Stollen (pes; A), together forming the Aufgesang (frons), and Abgesang (cauda; B). We need an actual definition of the word. SemperBlotto 08:24, 21 November 2006 (UTC)