Talk:substantia

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@Erutuon Might this be a calque from ὑπόστασις (hupóstasis)? --Barytonesis (talk) 17:19, 1 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Barytonesis: I would say yes. The makeup of the two words is similar enough. It's used in the Vulgate (Hebrews 11:1) to translate ὑπόστασις: Ἔστιν δὲ πίστις ἐλπιζομένων ὑπόστασιςEst autem fides sperandarum substantia rerum. The OED mentions the Greek word, but doesn't say that the Latin word is a calque of it. It does consider subsistence a calque, though. It says that substantia was more often used as the equivalent of the term οὐσία (ousía) than ὑπόστασις or ὕπαρξις (húparxis). That somewhat complicates the question. In addition, the OED mentions substantia as deriving from substans. I'm not sure if that term had an established meaning such that substantia can really be considered as deriving from it and not from sub- + stantia. At least in the case of the Vulgate, it may make sense to consider it a calque. — Eru·tuon 21:30, 1 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]