Talk:successor

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successor[edit]

Does this word have a meaning of 'A person or thing that immediately replaces another' ? --Eveningmist 11:40, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

I wouldn't have worded it that way, but it certainly means one who follows another in holding any kind of title, or office. There seems to be some diminished likelihood of using it for more generic roles or positions. For example, I could see it used for a one of the top roles in a play, but not for an extra or someone with a small role. DCDuring TALK 12:08, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your check. I seemed to mistake the meaning; I thought the one , who release somebody from the guy's role and give the role to another guy, like a producer who manages actors in a play. --Eveningmist 13:26, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for bringing up the ambiguity in the main sense of the word. See if my changes would have avoided the confusion. DCDuring TALK 15:42, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Your changing works! Example is also nice and it leads easy understanding. I just changed president names because recent presidents are better example for young generation and the reader outside U.S.
By the way, I suppose your edited sense and the definition #3 of the current article has the same meaning. I'll delete #3 if you and other guys agree. --Eveningmist 03:36, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
We have procedures for deleting words designed to prevent removal of good content. We have found that what seems obviously wrong to one person is obviously right to others. We research meanings. In this case, it may seem obvious that the inheritor is the successor, but what about the case of a prince, not yet of age, inheriting a kingdom upon the demise of parents. Is a regent the successor to the deceased King or is the prince the successor with the Regent merely serving in a fiduciary role? Until we are sure of the answers to such questions we don't make changes. We mark them as requests for deletion or requests for verification. DCDuring TALK 03:55, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
You're splitting hairs. If not outright deleted, I would merge the second and third sense. This has been exemplified to satisfaction of the nominator. DAVilla 04:54, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
I feel something wrong in the case of the young king. If he is a successor, I think it means he inherits the kingdom. The kingdom will be governed by the young king, and the regent's roll will be just supporting the young king.
However, I still agree what you, DCDuring, say. I guess the keys are who say a person or thing is a successor, like one says he is a successor, and when the person or thing inherits, which is already shown as the difference of sense #1 and #2. I tried to explain, but I couldn't because of my poor English skill.
Now I'd like to cancel my previous claim merging #1 and #3. Sorry of my poor explanation. --Eveningmist 20:50, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
Removing {{rfv}} template at the article -- one month has been passed after nomination, and the verification already seems to have been made. --Eveningmist 06:28, 1 March 2008 (UTC)