Talk:had better

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Usage note[edit]

"Had better" also means if you don't do it, there will be a negative consequence. I think this should be in the usage notes. --Bluesoju (talk) 23:36, 1 November 2015 (UTC)Reply

etymology[edit]

Since had (not) + infinitive deviates from the normal syntax, a brief note about its formation would improve the entry --Backinstadiums (talk) 22:53, 23 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

Past[edit]

You form the past by using should have or ought to have: She should have asked for some help.
https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/ought-to

--Backinstadiums (talk) 20:51, 18 November 2020 (UTC)Reply

Not used to express prohibition or lack of obligation[edit]

Had better can only be used to express obligation. It is not used to express prohibition or lack of obligation https://www.eltconcourse.com/training/inservice/functions/obligation.html JMGN (talk) 16:13, 14 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

The form cannot be used for obligation although its use by someone in authority often implies obligation rather than advice.
https://www.eltconcourse.com/training/inservice/modality/central_modal_verbs.html JMGN (talk) 22:19, 21 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

Usage note: the advice meaning is only for specific situations[edit]

The advice meaning only for specific situations, compare

 You’d better not listen to him

 You should / *'d better not listen to bad advice

Therefore, hopes and warnings are usually for the near future:

 You had better finish that soon
  
  He had better arrive in the next day or so or he'll be too late

https://www.eltconcourse.com/training/inservice/modality/central_modal_verbs.html

JMGN (talk) 08:13, 19 October 2023 (UTC)Reply