Talk:mirissimus

RFV discussion: January–April 2022

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mirissimus

AFAIK Latin mirus is not comparable. GBS turns up some hits, but all I looked at were for mitissimus. This rfv concerns also the comparative degree mirior given at mirus. --Akletos (talk) 13:51, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

See TLL, column 1070 lines 33ff. mirissimus is only attested in an inscription (CIL XII 1390) and Aelius Lampridius' biography of Heliogabalus, where TLL suggests it is an error for "Myrismus". The periphrases listed there also suggest that this is a spurious form, at least Classically.

As for mirior, here is the sole use recorded in TLL:

2nd cent. BCE, Titinius, Comoediarum 160–161:

velim ego osse arare campum cereum
mirior,
inquam, tibi videor?

This, that and the other (talk) 10:31, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

I found mirissimum in a sermon of Isaac de Stella (behind a paywall):

1100 – c. 1170, Isaac de Stella, Sermones 40.9.72:

Quid enim mirum si Deus piissimus, et quomodo, ut sic dicatur, non mirissimum, quod erga inimicos et impios tam pius est?

This, that and the other (talk) 10:47, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

Thanks a lot, @This, that and the other. What does this mean for our entries? Should the forms be labelled as "rare" or something like this? Is the phrase ut sic dicatur in the last quote relevant in this regard? Akletos (talk) 16:19, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

It seems to me that Isaac de Stella is still using the word for its meaning, despite distancing himself from it. I would tag both the words as {{lb|la|hapax}} and give a usage note explaining the magis mirus and maxime mirus periphrases that were used instead. This, that and the other (talk) 01:29, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

The term can be found used in New Latin. Examples from the 19th century: [1], [2], [3]. If the citations are correct, also 15th century: [4], and 17th century: [5].  --Lambiam 10:11, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

RFV-passed This, that and the other (talk) 02:02, 22 April 2022 (UTC)