Talk:tart
Latest comment: 7 years ago by Angr in topic Proto-Celtic
Proto-Celtic[edit]
@Angr The Proto-Celtic form here is shown already with the -s- missing. But the Old Irish form has a voiceless /t/, which suggests the presence of a former adjacent consonant that prevented it from being voiced. How does this work out? —CodeCat 18:35, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
- @CodeCat: In Old Irish, stops don't change after liquids. They become fricatives after vowels, and voiceless stops become voiced when they merge with a preceding nasal (*kantom > cét /kʲeːd/}}), but they remain unchanged after /l r/ (*artos > art /art/; *moltos > molt /molt/). —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 20:54, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
- Ah, I missed that then. Where does the voiced /d/ in the other etymology come from, then? —CodeCat 20:55, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
- From a geminate /dd/: ·tart is the prototonic equivalent of do·rat, from to-ɸro-ad-dā or something. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 21:04, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
- Ah, I missed that then. Where does the voiced /d/ in the other etymology come from, then? —CodeCat 20:55, 18 October 2016 (UTC)