Talk:to-come

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to-come

Are there three cites available in Modern English? There is apparently one from Shelley's "Hellas", which would be OK if unambiguously supporting the definition [as it seems to IMHO]. DCDuring (talk) 17:16, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

I've added a few. Not sure if there is any double referencing to an earlier work by Jacques Derrida, but I've tried to limit this to just one. Leasnam (talk) 20:44, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

We have a separate entry for to come. It would be nice to have more context or a pagelink to determine the meaning in the to-come citations. DCDuring (talk) 01:02, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

That page only has to come as an adjective. More context can be added, as I did pre-read several sentences leading up to the use in order to make sure they fit the sense. But for space's-sake I've learnt no pare the citations down just to the relevant pieces. I can go back and add more. Leasnam (talk) 01:31, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

Perhaps the noun citations for to come now in [[to-come]] should be in a noun PoS at [[to come]]. In the meantime, I have commented them out.

The pageurl parameter in our citation templates provides more context (all that Google provides) without taking up more screen space.

The Shelley citation seems clearly to do the with the future in general. I can't tell what definition is involved in some of the other citations, either of the to come or the to-come. What's more I find myself becoming nauseous trying. I leave the defining to those with stronger stomachs. DCDuring (talk) 02:02, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

Actually, I was able to find a few new citations rather easily for the spelling "to-come" that I feel clearly mean "future". I've added these at that sense. Leasnam (talk) 02:03, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

"What's more I find myself becoming nauseous trying" - I wholeheartedly agree with you there ! My head hurts after reading those. Perhaps we may be able to enlist @Equinox: who is highly skilled in making heads or tails of things ! Leasnam (talk) 02:06, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

I've added a couple FEW more. I'm actually surprised at how easy a time I'm having at finding these, as I did not expect to find nearly this many. One TWO I've just added appears as "tocome" (2015, TL Wolf; 1870, J. Payn), no hyphen, but we don't have an English for it, so I've added tocome to the Alternative forms. Leasnam (talk) 02:38, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

Why don't you create the English L2 for tocome instead of cluttering up [[to-come]] with citations that don't belong there? Why don't you add the pageurl so that I don't have to do it myself? DCDuring (talk) 04:29, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

Sure, I'll do both. Leasnam (talk) 04:36, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

@DCDuring: is it pageurl= or url= ? pageurl doesn't show a link, so I've used url for now Leasnam (talk) 04:48, 23 September 2019 (UTC) I got it. Leasnam (talk) 05:15, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

Why did you call my satanic name, Leasnam? I still often find myself annoyed by Leasnam entries that suggest that ancient long-dead words are either (i) generally current or (ii) current in some mysterious "UK/Scotland dialect". I think you need a trip to the UK. Equinox ◑ 22:35, 25 September 2019 (UTC)

Cool tool, isn't it? And thanks. DCDuring (talk) 13:54, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

Yes, very useful ! Leasnam (talk) 16:26, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

RFV-passed Kiwima (talk) 19:56, 15 October 2019 (UTC)