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RFD discussion: March–June 2014

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Stock symbol for Agilent Technologies. We have two entries in the category Translingual stock symbols of which this is one, but there are probably scores or hundreds of thousands of these in the real world, some of them with multiple meanings over time. We generally don't seem to like things associated with making money unless they are in some way colorful or funky.

I don't really see the justification for deleting these, but it fits our practice to do so. In contrast, we have appendices with ICAO three-letter codes for airports with numerous blue links. "I was reading the stock-ticker board/my trading screen and want to know what TIGR and SPDR meant" seems on all fours with "I saw someone's baggage with it's baggage tickets and I wanted to know what MSY, IAH, and LHR meant"?. DCDuring TALK 12:44, 10 March 2014 (UTC)Reply

Delete, the faster the better. --Hekaheka (talk) 06:19, 11 March 2014 (UTC)Reply
Comment: SPDR's are a kind of investment fund that tracks an index. Although trademarked, it is standard jargon. Choor monster (talk) 14:43, 2 June 2014 (UTC)Reply

Sense deleted. bd2412 T 18:06, 13 June 2014 (UTC)Reply


RFV discussion: August 2015

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Apparently it means a chess bishop in Spanish. --A230rjfowe (talk) 16:49, 1 August 2015 (UTC)Reply

Took some work to filter out the scannos for the bishop symbol, but now cited, I think. -- Visviva (talk) 20:55, 2 August 2015 (UTC)Reply


RFC discussion: July 2006–November 2009

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Letters of the alphabet

a, b, c, d, e, f, g, h, i, j, k, l, m, n, o, p, q, r, s, t, u, v, w, x, y, z

A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T, U, V, W, X, Y, Z

  1. Shouldn't these all have {{see| }} at the top?
    Yes. Go for it.
  2. Shouldn't these all be listed as ==English==?
    Yes. Go for it.
  3. Under what circumstances should they also be listed as ==Translingual==?
    Well, they are used in most European languages as well.
  4. Shouldn't these all be listed as ===Letter===? Or are we using ===Symbol===? (Why are they split about 50/50?)
    They should ALL be letter. But many are used as symbols as well, so should also have a symbol section. The split is probably due to different people having different ideas.
  5. Shouldn't these all have audio and IPA pronunciations?
  6. Shouldn't the vowels have long and short pronunciations?

--Connel MacKenzie T C 18:59, 5 July 2006 (UTC)Reply

    • My opinion is that the primary heading for these should be ==Roman alphabet==, not ==Translingual==. Then the secondary header should be ===Letter===. This is the way I d the Cyrillic alphabet (ж), and have begun the Arabic (Template:ARchar). —Stephen 15:50, 7 July 2006 (UTC)Reply
  • Perhaps we should move this to the Tea room? The idea of nominating it for cleanup is to have standard language headings for each of these alphabets; an alphabet itself is not a language. Using =Translingual= seems much better, to me. That's why I've been changing so many alphabet entry definitions. But I don't wish to go through these all (again?) if there isn't agreement on what they should look like. (Roman alphabet being only one of very many.) As it is right now, without the =Translingual= heading, many of the foreign language alphabet entries find their way back on to my various automated cleanup lists.
  • Pronunciation: currently, [z] has the audio files listing the "ABCs" sound, not the sound the letter makes. My question is: is it too silly to ask for all 52 entries to have both soundfiles (how it sounds and how the letter is spoken individually in the "ABCs.") The vowels, of course, have long and short sounds. --Connel MacKenzie T C 17:31, 7 July 2006 (UTC)Reply
User:Daniel. and others have done lots of excellent work on the letters of the alphabet. I think I can strike this --Volants 15:13, 13 November 2009 (UTC)Reply


Finance: class A, B, C shares

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Considering defining Class A share, Class B share, Class C share somewhere. The letters may be used without the word "class", as in A shares, B stock. Equinox 04:23, 4 January 2020 (UTC)Reply

especially used in the base more than ten

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Surely it should read : especially used in A base more than ten --Backinstadiums (talk) 14:52, 31 March 2020 (UTC)Reply

Galizionario-Style Breakdown Needed

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@Furagaitas

The entry A has to be broken up Galizionario style. The problem is, that I don't remember which entry has been broken down almost alphabetically at the Galician Wiktionary. --Apisite (talk) 06:52, 3 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Calq What do you think, Calq? --Apisite (talk) 06:53, 3 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Furagaitas, Calq This looks like a good opportunity to try something like this:

Having pages like Wiktionary:About Rohingya provide links to entries like A with templates like {{list:Latin script letters/rhg}}.
In that way, the entry A might not have to be burdened with entries on letters for different languages. --Apisite (talk) 08:50, 29 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

RFV discussion: February–March 2021

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A

Rfv-sense: "Ammunition examiner". This, that and the other (talk) 02:24, 13 February 2021 (UTC)Reply

What I think has happened here is that someone has noticed that ammunition examiners in certain armed forces have the letter "A" on their badge or insignia. This, of course, does not mean that the letter A is actually used as a symbol in running text to mean "ammunition examiner". This, that and the other (talk) 05:47, 13 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

RFV-failed Kiwima (talk) 10:43, 13 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

RFC discussion: July 2015–February 2021

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The English symbol section is a total mess and needs to be cleaned up and verified. -- Liliana 21:45, 27 July 2015 (UTC)Reply

What the hell, I'm game. Currently there are 29 Symbol senses. I've been pretty ruthless here, doing the following:
  • Speedy deleted the four "company" senses. Presumably these companies, three of which were steamship companies, used the letter "A" as some kind of identifier. That is useless information for a dictionary. I doubt you would run across these identifiers without the benefit of at least some context, allowing you to look in a more appropriate reference source.
  • Speedy deleted the "Van der Waals constant" sense. It is simply incorrect - lowercase a is used for this.
  • Speedy deleted the aviation sense. Apparently hail is represented by GR, not A, so it's another wrong sense.
  • Speedy deleted most of the scientific senses. Presumably these are standard variables for use in formulas, like P for pressure and so on. Again, a reader will run across these in a context where they know to look up a list of variables in engineering, chemistry, etc., such as w:List of letters used in mathematics and science. They are also not used as independent "terms". Therefore they fail the golden rule of CFI: "A term should be included if it's likely that someone would run across it and want to know what it means". Moreover, the fact that our list was essentially mutually exclusive with the Wikipedia list suggests that the deleted senses were of poor quality.
  • Speedy deleted "Fraunhofer line" sense. Same reasoning as above - you can look up a chart of Fraunhofer lines if you need to know this.
  • Speedy deleted "Assembly Bill". This isn't used by itself, instead forming part of codes for assembly bills in some legislatives (for instance, "NY State Assembly Bill A416"). This doesn't need to be in an entry for "A". If we included every way in which "A" was used as part of a code, we'd accumulate hundreds of useless senses. See also: golden rule of CFI above.
  • I'm going to send a couple of others (adulterer, ammunition examiner, includes extras) to RFV once I have checked some lemmings.
This, that and the other (talk) 12:20, 10 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
Looks good to me. DCDuring (talk) 15:20, 10 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
I've speedy deleted "includes extras", on two grounds: (1) it appears to actually be "a" in lowercase; (2) it is used in a highly specialised scenario and one would not "run across" it without additional context (see my comments above). You can see an example of a stock listing here - the listings that contain this symbol can hardly be described as language at all. It is more like a series of codes.
OED has some useful insights on the "adulterer" sense. It is used in The Scarlet Letter (in fact it is the titular scarlet letter), and likely meets CFI.
"Ammunition examiner" goes to RFV. This, that and the other (talk) 02:23, 13 February 2021 (UTC)Reply