Talk:smoking room

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smoking room

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As the definition currently stands, obvious SoP. TeleComNasSprVen 07:20, 17 October 2010 (UTC)Reply

I don't think it's SoP. A "smoking room" is a specific thing; it's not a room that smokes. ---> Tooironic 13:24, 17 October 2010 (UTC)Reply
Seems like a changing room, a room for changing, not a room that is changing. Mglovesfun (talk) 13:27, 17 October 2010 (UTC)Reply
...dining room, running bra, writing desk, etc.​—msh210 (talk) 19:51, 20 October 2010 (UTC)Reply
Obviously keep. SemperBlotto 06:43, 18 October 2010 (UTC)Reply
I'm not familiar with this term; is it a (UK) thing? (I tried google:"smoking room" "color" and google:"smoking room" "colour", and the latter gets nine times as many hits, but I don't trust Google-counts enough to just make the change without checking.) —RuakhTALK 18:34, 18 October 2010 (UTC)Reply
We currently have it as "A room designated for people who wish to smoke". Agatha Christie seems to use the hyphenated version smoking-room (currently redlinked) to denote a room to which people would retire to smoke and relax, a sort of den, but perhaps it was just a special-case use of our current definition rather than another sense.​—msh210 (talk) 18:54, 18 October 2010 (UTC)Reply
Thanks! That was roughly what I had in mind before clicking the link (I've read more Agatha Christie than I care to admit), but when I saw our def, I assumed that I was misremembering that expression, and that this was a different expression I wasn't familiar with. —RuakhTALK 19:34, 18 October 2010 (UTC)Reply
Another use of smoking room is w.r.t. hotels: it still means "A room designated for people who wish to smoke". That use seems rarish, though. One example.​—msh210 (talk) 19:49, 20 October 2010 (UTC)Reply
Weak (or very weak) delete, actually quite obvious from the sum of its parts. Quite, but not very. Mglovesfun (talk) 12:55, 19 October 2010 (UTC)Reply
Delete this SOP.​—msh210 (talk) 19:49, 20 October 2010 (UTC)Reply
Keep. Has two similar but different senses, and we should document their use. Ƿidsiþ 08:48, 22 October 2010 (UTC)Reply
What are those, Widsith?​—msh210 (talk) 16:10, 22 October 2010 (UTC)Reply
Sorry, as other users pointed out above...it indicates either a ("chiefly historical") room in a country house to which people retired to smoke after meals; or a room in a modern office, post-smoking bans, where smokers are allowed to indulge their evil habit. I feel like citations would illustrate this difference better than me though. Ƿidsiþ 16:40, 22 October 2010 (UTC)Reply
Keep per Widsith. DAVilla 03:03, 31 October 2010 (UTC)Reply
Keep. Also create the spellings smoking-room and smokingroom; this might come under the head of WT:COALMINE. --Dan Polansky 07:40, 16 November 2010 (UTC)Reply
Keep. It has the distinct senses Ƿidsiþ lists, pertaining to smoking tobacco — and probably another sense like fumoir pertaining to smoking meat — but it isn't a room that is giving off smoke. It isn't even for smoking incense in, is it? Moreover, as Dan Polansky suggests, smokingroom meets CFI handily. — Beobach972 08:10, 16 November 2010 (UTC)Reply
The linkage to tobacco is part of the main meaning of smoke/smoking: "To inhale and exhale the smoke from a burning cigarette, cigar, pipe, etc." DCDuring TALK 11:06, 16 November 2010 (UTC)Reply

passes. Mglovesfun (talk) 19:41, 2 December 2010 (UTC)Reply