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mistaken rollbacks

I think there were some mistaken rollbacks in three cases, like here. Shall I revert them or would you like to revert them yourself?

Adam78 (talk)11:59, 30 September 2019

{{l}} should not be used in definitions, according to its own documentation.

Rua (mew)12:05, 30 September 2019

There is no such claim at the documentation you linked. Tear has two etymologies and lots of meanings under them; it's not convenient to use plain links (let alone the long Contents section at the top). Some linking template should be used. Do you have a better idea than {{l}}?

Adam78 (talk)17:56, 30 September 2019

The documentation states: Use this template outside running text, in sections that list entries, such as “Synonyms”, “Related terms” and “Descendants”.

Using plain links to wikify plain English text has always been the standard on Wiktionary, and while some people think {{l}} should be used, it's still only a small minority. The use of {{l}} makes running text much harder to read, and it also adds unnecessary markup to the page. It also makes the page load slower, and contributes to the number of pages that are too big to render correctly. Moreover, linking to sections, in either {{l}} or plain links, is bad practice because the sections are subject to change at any time. If the structure of the page is changed, the links will no longer point to the correct location. On top of that, linking to etymology sections is bad practice because it doesn't indicate which part-of-speech and sense you mean.

The correct way to handle this situation is by using {{senseid}}. This creates linkable anchors on the page with the format langname-sense. You can then use this anchor in plain links like so: [[tear#English-liquid|tear]].

Rua (mew)18:50, 30 September 2019

All right, I think I can get used to this practice (and I already started using senseid). I still find it counterproductive for short words, though, as one has to scroll through a long table of contents there, but for words longer than four letters it normally works all right. I'm sorry for my earlier outburst.

Adam78 (talk)14:35, 4 November 2019