Talk:價錢

Wu

@Atitarev Are you sure about adding Wu for this? Do you have a source? — justin(r)leung _{{ (t...) | c=› }} 04:36, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

@Justinrleung: No, I misread your point about the origin of "鈿". Removed. --Anatoli T. ^{(обсудить}/^вклад) 04:38, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

@Atitarev: Alright, thanks :D — justin(r)leung _{{ (t...) | c=› }} 04:42, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict) @Justinrleung: What about Wu -> Hangzhou 價鈿, 價錢 in the map? --Anatoli T. ^{(обсудить}/^вклад) 04:46, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

@Atitarev: Hangzhou has both forms: 價鈿 /tɕiɑ⁵⁵ diɛ̃²¹³⁻³¹/ and 價錢 /tɕiɑ⁵⁵ dʑiɛ̃²¹³⁻³¹/. The 鈿 form is the native Wu form, and the 錢 form is likely a borrowing from Mandarin (since Hangzhou has a high degree of Mandarin influence). — justin(r)leung _{{ (t...) | c=› }} 04:53, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

@Justinrleung: Well, we're having a bit of an issue then. Shanghai is considered prestige accent for Wu and the only one we handle. If we need to a Wu word, which is not confirmed to be Shanghainese then we can't. With "|w=" we can only add Shanghainese, not any Wu words. (The map actually triggered my module edit). BTW, minidict uses "die", not "di" to romanise 鈿 (Shanghai) but I'm following the about Wu conversion instructions and Wyang's findings.--Anatoli T. ^{(обсудить}/^вклад) 05:01, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

@Atitarev: Our pronunciation module is highly limited at this point, which is frustrating. As for why we differ from minidict, it's because minidict's romanization is based on 老派 (e.g. 上海方言詞典), while our romanization is based on 中派 (e.g. 上海话大词典). For example, 價鈿 is [kɑ³³ die⁵³] in 老派 but [ka³³ di⁴⁴] in 中派. — justin(r)leung _{{ (t...) | c=› }} 05:14, 17 April 2019 (UTC)