Talk:英語

This page needs help, but I can't provide it, as I don't speak (or read) Chinese. Ortonmc 16:41, 31 Mar 2004 (UTC)

I worked on it some. The IPA tone marks are a distress though, as no diacritic for "falling-rising" tone is encoded in Unicode (or if there is, I don't know how to produce it) and the tone letters I ended up using (˧˨˧) are supposed to ligate to the proper form according to the Unicode book, but I spose if my fonts aren't smart enough to do it, all hope is lost for the rest of the world. </ego> —Muke Tever 03:08, 1 Apr 2004 (UTC)

In cases like these we should use the best Unicode we can and it'll all just work as the features are supported by the fonts, OSes, rendering systems etc. If there are other ways to represent things, such as SAMPA, we can use both. — Hippietrail 05:40, 18 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Lucida Sans Unicode will display the IPA tone marks. I confirmed the IPA tone marks here.

A-cai 13:13, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

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The IPA and SAMPA don't match anymore? Which is right? Can we have an explanation? — Hippietrail 05:40, 18 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Hmm.. the X-SAMPA appears to be indicating a common pronunciation, at least as far as ɡ vs ŋ goes; the phoneme /ɡ/ is commonly realized as [ŋ] (raising again the question, how narrow are the pronunciation transcriptions meant to be?). However the /eː/ may actually be more correct; I'm not sure enough to tell, but if おう is often unambiguously /oː/ I don't see why えい couldn't be /eː/ [my Japanese phonology isn't strong enough to tell though]. (as for them not matching, it's possible the contributor just couldn't type /ːŋ/.) —Muke Tever 12:30, 18 Jul 2004 (UTC)