Talk:AIDS baby

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"(derogatory) A person born diseased especially with HIV and starvation." Created by the notoriously unreliable Luciferwildcat. As far as I can tell, an "AIDS baby" is one born specifically with AIDS, not just "diseased" in general, and starvation has nothing to do with it. (If the entry is changed to say "a baby born with AIDS" then it might be deletable as sum of parts, unless we get picky about "born with AIDS" vs. "got AIDS shortly after birth somehow".) Equinox 12:57, 3 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Are babies ever born with AIDS? They can be born with HIV, but HIV in infants is usually contracted very late in gestation or after birth, it seems like it would be very rare that an infant developed AIDS before birth, if that is even possible. If an AIDS baby is born to parents with AIDS that is probably not SOP, if an AIDS baby is one which developed AIDS at some point during infancy that would probably be SOP. Cf. also crack baby, which I understand more to refer to the general familial welfare of a child than to the actual drug use of the parents. - TheDaveRoss 17:55, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
You're technically correct, I'm sure, but the problem may be better recorded at AIDS. AIDS/HIV makes a distinction rarely made in other diseases; e.g. Wikipedia says "Two-thirds of syphilitic infants are born without symptoms", not "Two-thirds of infants infected with Treponema pallidum are born without syphilis." (Heathline says "HIV can progress to AIDS, also known as stage 3 HIV." Huh? Then is HIV the name of the virus and the disease?)
Basically AIDS baby means AIDS--I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, HIV/AIDS--okay HIV, which may turn into AIDS--baby. It's part of AIDS, not AIDS baby.
Crack baby referred specifically to crack cocaine; w:en:Crack baby redirects to an article all about the effects of cocaine during pregnancy. The actual effects associated with crack baby may be more to do with the general familial welfare, but the article is clear that it was about crack cocaine, and the general familial welfare was generally ignored by people who used crack baby.--Prosfilaes (talk) 02:44, 9 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

RFV-failed Kiwima (talk) 21:22, 6 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]