Talk:Krug

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Surname[edit]

Added sect, Proper noun, Surname, diff. Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 01:40, 14 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

Pronunciation[edit]

Quote: "Standard tag removed due to redundancy; the language code 'de' covers only standard German per definition."

Actually, Standard High German (de) is a language which can have pre- and proscribed and also standard and nonstandard terms and pronunciations too (and I don't mean proper dialectal forms). Eg.s include:

  • pre- & proscribed spelling: daß (prescribed since ~1900 in traditional spelling, proscribed since 1996 in deformed spelling) / dass (proscribed since ~1900 in traditional spelling, prescribed since 1996 in deformed spelling)
  • nonstandard spelling: fotographieren/photografieren
  • pre- & proscribed pronunciation: Sieb's Bühnenaussprache (prescribes pronunciations for Bühnen, indirectly proscribes other pronunciations for Bühnen)
  • possibly nonstandard pronunciation: (dialectal influenced misspronunciations, e.g. with /j/ for <g>=/g/ or /e:/ for <ei>=/ai/ (from MHG ei, not ī))

-18:16, 11 January 2019 (UTC)

Yes, but we don't usually label standard forms, unless we're emphasizing the contrast with something nonstandard- everything is assumed to be standard by default, and only the exceptions are noted. Chuck Entz (talk) 04:04, 12 January 2019 (UTC)Reply
That's all right. But I definitely agree with the other anon that the reasoning in the quote is entirely mistaken. "Standard German" means all lects that are based on the modern written language, as distinct from traditional dialects inherited locally. Therefore not all "Standard German" is "standard German", there is a lot of "nonstandard Standard German". 77.13.184.164 21:56, 24 February 2021 (UTC)Reply