Talk:behind

RFD sense 2013

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behind

Adverb sense no.5 appears to depend entirely on the phrasal verb usage. I doubt this is a real adverbial sense. -- ALGRIF talk 15:56, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

If it were true, that this was only in use in truly phrasal verbs, then we would need a place to indicate the contributions that a particle gives to phrasal verbs it is part of. And we would be denying users the chance to construct the meaning from components. If we could show that there was no use except in true phrasal verbs, then we could indicate with a context label the restrictions that might apply, eg, (only in phrasal verbs). DCDuring TALK 18:47, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

I find the noun sense 2. "bottom, downside" puzzling. To which sense of "bottom" and "downside" is it referring to? I don't see any sense amongst our definitions that these two words were sharing. Or is it actually the same as sense 3. "butt, the buttocks"? If that's the case, we need another sense to "downside", and to combine 2 and 3. --Hekaheka (talk) 02:58, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

@DCD That place you were asking about? It is in the appendices where the phrasal verbs are separated and organised by particle. The user is invited to make the best understanding of the meaning(s) of the particle for himherself. It is almost a "criteria" of phrasal-verb-ness, that the meaning held in the particle is somewhat subjective and often not an exact map to the standard meanings of the corresponding adverbs and prepositions. And yet, the phrasal verb itself is normally very precise in meaning. See subcategories of Category:English phrasal verbs -- ALGRIF talk 11:48, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Kept. I added a link to the category of English phrasal verbs with "behind" and added the missing senses "overdue" and "slow", as of a timepiece. I also changed the disputed definition because "After the departure of another" is a bit narrow, as one can stay behind after many sorts of things. --Hekaheka (talk) 18:25, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

RFV discussion: February–October 2014

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behind

Rfv-sense # 2: "bottom, downside". None of the dictionaries in Outlook seem to have this as separate sense. Should it be merged with the 3rd sense "butt, buttocks" (which every Outlook dictionary has)? --Hekaheka (talk) 18:42, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

This might be hard to verify given all the other senses of behind, though searching for it on the BYU corpora or on Google with a variety of determiners might help. It might be a job for the OED.

BTW, I don't recognize sense 1 either. DCDuring TALK 20:12, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Sense 1: now that you say it, right. --Hekaheka (talk) 03:34, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

I've put some citations on the citations page, but these could be taken as sense #1. Sense #2 is still dubious, I think. SpinningSpark 16:14, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

The "microscope" citation supports sense 1. The other two seem as much metaphor uses for sense 3 as anything else, but we often seem to enshrine metaphors as distinct definitions. But in any event they would seem to support sense 1 rather than sense 2. DCDuring TALK 17:10, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

Seems that there's consensus for ending the life of sense #2 as separate sense. --Hekaheka (talk) 23:22, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

out behind

What's the meaming of "out behind" ? --Backinstadiums (talk) 11:58, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

"From out behind" seems to be a mistake for "out from behind" (the curtain). Equinox ◑ 15:29, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

@Equinox: google books is full of the phrses "from out behind" --Backinstadiums (talk) 09:59, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

Yes, common error. A lot of people write miniscule for minuscule too. Equinox ◑ 04:42, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

to one's credit

For example in he has four novels behind her --Backinstadiums (talk) 09:30, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

ADJECTIVE (postpositive) in a position further back; retarded

ADJECTIVE  (postpositive) in a position further back; retarded
the car behind started to overtake
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english/behind

--Backinstadiums (talk) 09:59, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

Adjective: late; not on schedule: I'm way behind now; can I call you back later?

Adjective: late; not on schedule: I'm way behind now; can I call you back later? --Backinstadiums (talk) 16:14, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

underneath

underneath the external appearance of somebody or something: Behind his calm exterior, he was very confused. --Backinstadiums (talk) 17:50, 3 June 2021 (UTC)