Talk:evilist

RFV discussion: July 2021

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evilist

An evil person. Can we get three for this? Created by a "Pass a method" sock account, it seems. Most hits are, of course, erroneous forms of "evilest" (adjective). Equinox ◑ 12:35, 25 July 2021 (UTC)

I added a second citation though I think the date on it is probably wrong. It's also used capitalized like a faction name in:

• 2020, Yuu Tanaka, Reincarnated as a Sword (Light Novel) Vol. 5, Seven Seas Entertainment (→ISBN)

  "An Evilist fortress fell overnight? And you're saying it's the Millennium Fortress? That's the strongest fort those Evil One worshippers had."

Maybe someone can find a better third citation.

(I can also find "lesser evilists", which is of course "lesser evil"+"-ist" not "lesser"+"evilist", and reminds me of Talk:onlyer.)

The definition also needs tweaking, it seems like it's more along the lines of one who does or promotes evil, it seems (to me) to connote doing evil like an activity or promoting it like an ideology, more than just passively possessing the quality of evilness, even if these might be denotatively equivalent. - -sche (discuss) 00:49, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

cited. Kiwima (talk) 02:19, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

@Kiwima: Note the existence of lesser evilism, for example. If balled only ever existed in big-balled and in no other form, then we shouldn't have balled alone. (In practice of course there might be two-balled, sweaty-balled, etc. ahahah forgive my bad example.) I do not think something like "lesser-evilist" can support "evilist", except possibly as a redirect, and I would even challenge that, since a search operation would find it anyway. Equinox ◑ 03:50, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

In a "balled" case, I might argue for {{only used in}}. I don't think any of Kiwima's citations are of "lesser evilist", though? They all seem to be of bare "evilist", except possibly "arch-evilist". Great job finding so many, btw, Kiwima. - -sche (discuss) 04:13, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

Yes, you are right, K's cites are extremely convincing. I'd pass this. Thanks Kiwima. Equinox ◑ 04:26, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

You are right that lesser evilist is more common, and I was careful to avoid it. I also avoided root of all evilist. (And you may note a cite on the citations page for a nonce meaning as one who is considered bigoted for saying that those who commit evil acts are evil.) Kiwima (talk) 21:19, 28 July 2021 (UTC)