Talk:juice joint

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Not in any OneLook reference except Urban Dictionary. DCDuring TALK 14:11, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Bgc reveals dictionaries that define it as a speakeasy. Citations:juice joint has some ambiguous quotations: The Mezzrow and Nest quotes clearly mean bar (tavern) — or some kind of bar. The Ridley quote seems to be referring to a place to an opium den (well, the modern equivalent). The Brown quote, I just don't know. And there are many bgc hits that refer to a place that sells juice (y'know, like orange or mango). It's probable that we're missing appropriate senses s.v. juice and that this is SOP, given its wide range of meanings.​—msh210℠ (talk) 19:09, 21 June 2010 (UTC) 19:27, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

AFAIK, the modern kind selling fruit juice is most often called a juice bar. Equinox ◑ 19:14, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Sure, but [noun] joint is used to mean a place that sells [noun] for consumption on the premises. See google books:"meat and potatoes joint" or "spaghetti joint", for example.​—msh210℠ (talk) 19:24, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Added (deprecated template usage) juice. DCDuring TALK 20:39, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

That "juice" begins with dʒ makes it a priori one of the slang terms for liquor most likely to combine with "joint". Is that alliteration a reason to include or exclude a collocation? Other alliterative collocations with nearly as high to much higher Mutual Information scores on COCA are "jook"/"juke, "jazz", "java", "gyp" (and "jaw"). DCDuring TALK 20:59, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Of course, this becomes an RfD question. DCDuring TALK 21:07, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Depends if the definition is accurate. It says a nightclub, not SoP IMO. If it's any joint (bar, nightclub, pub, etc.) that sell alcohol, then it's SoP. Mglovesfun (talk) 23:14, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

At COCA nine of ten hits relate to fresh juice-selling establishments; one to a kind a hand-rolled crack- and marijuana-enhanced cigarette. Nothing at BNC. DCDuring TALK 00:38, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Re SOP: I don't think this could be considered SOP, since there are two or three possible meanings, one of which was not immediately obvious to me. I would have sooner assumed this was smokeable marijuana before guessing it was a speak-easy. --EncycloPetey 19:36, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

As I mention above, this seems to have various meanings, of which the one entered and challenged is at best barely attestable. It's use with joint seems to be quite as relatively infrequent as the use of "juice" to mean "liquor". DCDuring TALK 19:50, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Seems to be cited; RFV-passed. Put in a RFD if you feel it's SOP. (Abkürzungsdschungel!) - -sche (discuss) 19:06, 23 June 2011 (UTC)