Talk:loš
Is it possible that the Proto-Slavic word is from Gothic or Old Norse? P. Skok only mentions the Gothic word (and surprisingly skips the Old Norse) as usporednica (and the Tocharian as uporeduje se sa), but can it be the source? Bogorm 21:41, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
When I juxtapose the Gothic (deprecated template usage) 𐌻𐌰𐍃𐌹𐍅𐍃 (lasiws) and Old Norse (deprecated template usage) lasinn with the South Slavic cognates meaning bad, my first thought was that this is the linguistic dimension of Nietzsche's theory about the origin of the converses good - bad (gut - schlecht) / good - evil (gut - böse) (in his masterpiece Zur Genealogie der Moral). According to him the language of chandala botched the word evil as a converse to good and associated it with strength, while among the nobility the converse of good is bad and contains the connotation of weak - just like the Old Norse and Gothic meaning!! I consider this complete consonance between the philosophical and linguistic dimension amazing and I intend to mention it in the etymology. May I? Bogorm 11:06, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
- Gothic word could not be the source of Common Slavic *lošь becauase of problematic */š/...though that word appears to have been attested rather late in a confined territory, only in South Slavic and some dialectal Russian, so it might as well be some late borrowing from Balkanic Gothic with iotation /sj/ > /š/. All the sources mention Gothic word as a parallel, not as a source, and none tries to reconstruct some post-PIE mother form.
- Your above comment on Nietzschean reinterpretatoin of the weak:bad is interesting, but unfortunatelly there is this Original Research policy that forbids the addition of all the original research that cannot be corroborated by external, verifiable sources. We're here just the "collecters" of knowledge, not the researchers. For things such as above there's the space in your personal namespace (User:Bogorm/*), blogs, etc.... :) --Ivan Štambuk 11:32, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
- Well, alas... Bogorm 11:36, 24 January 2009 (UTC) (PS: corroborated, I am not entitled to modify others' comments)
- Yes, corroborate, my Firefox for some reason stopped doing spell-checking in edit boxen about a week ago, and I still haven't figured out why. Would it satisfy you to put the above-elaborated semantic connection in the appendix page for *lošь? --Ivan Štambuk 11:59, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, gladly. Where is the appendic? Bogorm 14:13, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, corroborate, my Firefox for some reason stopped doing spell-checking in edit boxen about a week ago, and I still haven't figured out why. Would it satisfy you to put the above-elaborated semantic connection in the appendix page for *lošь? --Ivan Štambuk 11:59, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
- Well, alas... Bogorm 11:36, 24 January 2009 (UTC) (PS: corroborated, I am not entitled to modify others' comments)