Talk:meddo

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RFD discussion: October 2020–March 2022[edit]

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Old Prussian meddo

User:Gnosandes marked this for deletion, with no explanation. Page has been around since 2009; at least it needs discussion before deletion. Benwing2 (talk) 02:02, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Dumb. Sourced and removed. --{{victar|talk}} 02:45, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Benwing2: It is actually a Prussian form with no structured spelling. I tried to make the form more structured: PBS *médu > OP meddu (Meddo in the monuments), PBS *álu > OP allu (Alu in the monuments), PBS péku > OP pekku (Pecku in the monuments). Usually a doubled consonant implies the [Dybo-]Kortlandt's law: *V́TV > VTV́ (VTTV). Gnosandes (talk) 08:37, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Old Prussian meddu isn't attested and should be deleted. --{{victar|talk}} 08:45, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Victar: No, it is attested in monuments - =o is the human factor in the manuscript. The meddo must be deleted. Gnosandes (talk) 08:55, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Stop making up spellings that don't exist. --{{victar|talk}} 08:56, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Victar: Who comes up with when you have non-logical wordform chains under your nose? xd Gnosandes (talk) 08:59, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Victar: And yes, if you really want to keep the original, you have to capital letter the wordform, just like in German. And all this will be not regular and ugly in appearance. I just suggested such a "styling", this is also in the Mikkels Klussis dictionary. Gnosandes (talk) 09:34, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The point isn't to make it "pretty", it's to make it accurate. OPr alu isn't attested with a germinated consonant, despite any arguments of it being more etymologically "correct". *allu is purely a reconstruction. We do normalize the spelling of some languages, but that doesn't cover the insertion of consonants or the changing of vowels. --{{victar|talk}} 18:50, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Victar: The consonant insertion here is responsible for the location of the stress and that's all. It is quite consistent with the law. If you are so striving for "imaginary" accuracy, then please write nouns with a capital letter as it is written in monuments. And there is no need to arrange double standards here. This does not mean that such forms do not correspond to the laws according to which the Prussian language is brought into an adequate form. Or indicate inside for Prussian forms in IPA. (It would also be great to remember the Polabian language)
For example: meddja̲n ~ medjā̲i ~ medjamma̲ns Gnosandes (talk) 19:24, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Move to WT:RFVN, and maybe also add meddu there? --Bakunla (talk) 10:09, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
RFD-kept Thadh (talk) 00:09, 18 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]