Talk:premious

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RFV discussion: July 2021[edit]

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Rfv-sense: rich in gifts - all the hits I got were scannoes for previous, and Latin Roger the Rodger (talk) 21:14, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It occurs in a couple of very old dictionaries of "hard words": [1], [2]. Mihia (talk)
RFV-converted to a link to Appendix:English dictionary-only terms. You can keep this RFV listed for a month, but one won’t find any uses. OED hasn’t either, claiming it only “attested” in dictionaries. Fay Freak (talk) 00:40, 17 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Challenge accepted! It is true that most of the hits are scannos for previous or premiums or such, but I DID manage to find one cite from 1659 (see citations page). (I'm glad the challenge wasn't to fully attest the word, but only to fine "any uses".) Kiwima (talk) 21:53, 17 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
That was in Yorkshire. Perhaps there are more in strange spellings—I have not found any from Northern England of that time though. Oddly I have found a quote from 1891 USA, listed on the citations page. The author clearly was seeking words and showing off his knowledge of foreign premises, with verbiage like:
“What tree of more pulchritude and symmetricalness could you nominate for roadside, street and public park planting than the graceful linden? We should possess more of the spirit which predominates in this direction in the crowning gem of America’s constitutionality—the City of Washington, D. C. ‘‘Unter den Lindens’’ would not only be found in Germany, but in all the large cities of our grand and glorious United States. Washington has her Unter den Linden in the Massachussetts avenue. Her North and South Capital streets are buttonholed with the stately tulips, which are fit emblems to thus adorn the meridian of the United States.”
Fay Freak (talk) 22:37, 17 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]


@Fay Freak: I found more cites for the noun you added to Citations:premious and created an entry. What is the etymology? Note that “premiums” can also be found in the 1927 text. J3133 (talk) 17:08, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@J3133: The etymology is that it is a lousy misspelling, or at best misconstruction if you believe some people have misheard the word and thus consciously spelt it this way, not an actual word—more likely than any “etymology”. You let yourself be baited. Fay Freak (talk) 21:08, 24 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]