Talk:tantamount to election

Deletion debate

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It should not be re-entered without careful consideration.

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Means (deprecated template usage) tantamount to (deprecated template usage) election. --EncycloPetey 05:26, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Retain. Yes, it's an adjective phrase involving a preposition + noun object, but the words defined separately fail to capture that "tantamount to election" is a stock phrase which merits being defined as a unit. Additionally, the phrase as a unit is an outgrowth of the post-Reconstruction one-party Democratic politics of the Solid South and consequently has an etymology as a phrase. Unless you know the definition of the phrase anyway and thus don't need the dictionary, you cannot capture that derivation from the words defined separately. Rammer 05:59, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Didn't make much sense to me. Deleted SemperBlotto 08:13, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

If the definition is correct, it doesn't seem to mean tantamount to election. The Wikipedia article of the same name might help us. Mglovesfun (talk) 10:11, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

The definition identified the general (and SoP) concept with a particular class of US instantiations of the concept. This is a basic flaw in a definition of the type that seems to characterize many definitions that do not survive.

I am interested in accumulating examples of types of flaws in definitions for purposes of Wiktionary:Definitions or some associated page. Similarly, examples of types of improvable definitions (eg, unsatisfactory technical definitions, unnecessary hyperspecialization, "An X is when..." definitions (of "X") for Wiktionary:Improving definitions. The associated talk pages or the body of the Wiktionary pages would be good places for such things. DCDuring TALK * Holiday Greetings! 16:07, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Err, not restored, no consensus to do so. Mglovesfun (talk) 12:24, 26 April 2010 (UTC)