Talk:the new black

Origin

I'd be interested in seeing a confirmation that the phrase refers to the color black as a clothing color fad. I think some people erroneously think it refers to African-Americans. My point isn’t to question whether African-Americans are "in fashion" or not, but to preclude the misapprehension that the phrase is related to something other than clothing, because the idea that it's related to a group of people has the potential of eliciting offense, and unnecessarily so. DanwWiki (talk) 00:25, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

• It is certainly not limited to clothing; it is used in connection with whatever is fashionable in any field. bd2412 T 04:25, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
• Yes, but in every case they are saying that the thing now occupies the trendy status niche that black clothing used to occupy, as opposed to now occupying some trendy status niche that black people may be said to have occupied. At least, I'm looking for confirmation that this was the intended meaning when the phrase originated. Of course I agree that the thing whose status is being described, by being compared to the status of black clothing, can be anything in any field and is usually not clothing. DanwWiki (talk) 15:27, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
  • You are correct, the phrase originated with clothing, and with the thing referred to being the new trend in clothing replacing black clothing as a trend. bd2412 T 16:01, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
    • Thanks! DanwWiki (talk) 00:46, 15 December 2015 (UTC)