Talk:Fietse

N. van der Sijs (2006) says that the word has only very recently been borrowed following older "Bromfiets" for moped. She also says that the word is becoming more and more common. None of this is correct in my opinion. I've never heard "Bromfiets", which was probably just a slang word used some decades ago. The word "Fietse" to the contrary is well established and is used more by the older generation than the young. I don't want to say "Fietse" is on its way out, because the young do still use it, but it's not a "trendy" word at all. Cf. also the quote at Fietsken, where it says "the good old 'Fietsken'."

Elaborating on this now, the -e and feminine gender in "die Fietse" also show that the word has passed through the local dialects (on both sides of the border) into colloquial standard German. If it were a recent, "post-dialectal" borrowing from standard Dutch, it would probably have become "das Fiets" (with the gender of "Fahrrad"). 84.57.154.42 22:23, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

And now I can finally confirm, because the Rheinisches Wörterbuch already has it under "Fitze". (Did I not look or did I not find it?) The letter F was published in 1931, so it's even earlier than I would've guessed. One still hears the short vowel at times, but a long-vowel variant is also given. 178.4.151.86 23:36, 31 March 2022 (UTC)