Talk:Ulixes

Latin

"Ulixes" does not belong to the 5th declension. The forms like "Ulixei" are of 2nd declension, coined as if the nom. was "Ulixeus". The same phenomenon is observed in names like Hercules (gen. Herculis, Herculi or Herculei <- *Herculeus), Achilles (gen. Achillis, Achilli or Achillei <- *Achilleus) etc. IIRC, these are simply old (archaic) Latin genetives for these proper names. 193.0.78.20 09:55, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

For Achilles that works (and Achilleus is said to be attested in an inscription); for Ulixes it would work too; for Hercules it doesn't (dat. Herculeī in inscription belongs to 5th declension not to third or second; the Greek name doesn't have nom. -εύς). One could WT:RFV voc. Ulixē and dat. Ulixeī. If one of it is attested, it belongs to the fifth although gen. Ulixeī could still belong to the second too; and if unattested gen. Ulixeī should belong to the second only. But as for the abl., Ulixē it's not easy to attest as without macron it looks like Ulixe. -84.161.25.79 22:43, 24 April 2017 (UTC)