Talk:heron

Etymology[edit]

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User:Flibjib8 added this detailed etymology, and it appears to be riddled with mistakes. First, I think he just copied it from somewhere, as I see these same impossible Greek transliterations on several other Internet sites. Other languages seem wrong, too. I suggest we delete it and return to the pre-User:Flibjib8 etymology. —Stephen 01:31, 24 June 2010 (UTC)Reply

Yeah Greek doesn't (and never has had) a true (deprecated template usage) h. I support the move, see his user talk. Think he was permablocked on fr:, or else after a series of blocks, he just gave up. Mglovesfun (talk) 01:36, 24 June 2010 (UTC)Reply

I restored and revised my previous etymology. Here I have added the same, in abbreviated form, and full of references. Admittedly, some things I couldn't find again, namely the Greek that I assume was mistranslitterated, so I have left them out. In the future, I'd appreciate it if you'd make a valid check on an etymology (i.e., in a book) before removing it on a whim.

heron - ME heiroun, hayroun, fr. A-Fr hairon, heiron, fr. OLFrk *heigro^[1] (cf. OHG heigir,^[2]^[3]^[4] heigaro^[5]), fr. PGmc *xaiʒarōn^[6]^[7] (cf. Sw häger, Dan. hejre),^[8] dissimilated form of *xraiʒrōn^[9]^[10] (cf. OE hrāgra,^[11]^[12] WFris reager, Du reiger,^[13] G Reiher^[14]^[15]), fr. PIE *kroikro,^[16] fr. *(s)ker-^[17] (cf. W cryg ‘hoarse’,^[18] cregyr ‘heron’,^[19] Lith krỹkšti ‘to shriek’,^[20] OSl kričati ‘to cry out’,^[21] krikŭ ‘screaming’,^[22] Gk krízein ‘to creak’,^[23] aor. kríke ‘it creaked’^[24]).

^ Webster's New World College Dictionary, 4th edn., s.v. "heron" (Cleveland: Wiley Publishing, 2008).
^ Ibid.
^ Shorter Oxford English Dictionary, 6th edn., I, s.v. "heron" (Oxford: Oxford Univ. Press, 2007).
^ Random House Webster's Unabridged Dictionary, 2nd revised edn., s.v. "heron" (Random House Reference, 2005), 896.
^ Webster's Third New International Dictionary of the English Language Unabridged, 3rd edn., s.v. "heron" (Springfield, Mass.: Merriam-Webster, 2002), 1060.
^ Oxford Dictionary of English Etymology, 2nd edn., ed. C.T. Onions, s.v. "heron" (Oxford: Oxford Univ. Press, 1996), 438.
^ Chambers Dictionary of Etymology, ed. Robert K. Barnhart, s.v. "heron" (Edinburgh, Scotland: Chambers, 2008), 479.
^ Ibid.
^ Oxford Dic. of Eng. Etym., 438.
^ Vladimir Orel, A Handbook of Germanic Etymology, s.v. "xraiʒrōn" (Leiden, Netherlands: Brill, 2003), 183.
^ WN3IDE, 1060.
^ Oxford Dic. of Eng. Etym., 438.
^ Chambers, 479.
^ Oxford Dic. of Eng. Etym., 438.
^ Chambers, 479.
^ Ibid.
^ WNWCD, s.v. "heron".
^ WN3IDE, 1060.
^ Chambers, 479.
^ WN3IDE, 1060.
^ Oxford Dic. of Eng. Etym., 438.
^ Chambers, 479.
^ Oxford Dic. of Eng. Etym., 438.
^ WN3IDE, 1060.

Flibjib8 16:43, 30 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

RFD discussion: January–April 2020[edit]

See Talk:unicorn#RFD discussion: January–April 2020.

[1] Webster's New World College Dictionary, 4th edn., s.v. "heron" (Cleveland: Wiley Publishing, 2008).

[2] Ibid.

[3] Shorter Oxford English Dictionary, 6th edn., I, s.v. "heron" (Oxford: Oxford Univ. Press, 2007).

[4] Random House Webster's Unabridged Dictionary, 2nd revised edn., s.v. "heron" (Random House Reference, 2005), 896.

[5] Webster's Third New International Dictionary of the English Language Unabridged, 3rd edn., s.v. "heron" (Springfield, Mass.: Merriam-Webster, 2002), 1060.

[6] Oxford Dictionary of English Etymology, 2nd edn., ed. C.T. Onions, s.v. "heron" (Oxford: Oxford Univ. Press, 1996), 438.

[7] Chambers Dictionary of Etymology, ed. Robert K. Barnhart, s.v. "heron" (Edinburgh, Scotland: Chambers, 2008), 479.

[8] Ibid.

[9] Oxford Dic. of Eng. Etym., 438.

[10] Vladimir Orel, A Handbook of Germanic Etymology, s.v. "xraiʒrōn" (Leiden, Netherlands: Brill, 2003), 183.

[11] WN3IDE, 1060.

[12] Oxford Dic. of Eng. Etym., 438.

[13] Chambers, 479.

[14] Oxford Dic. of Eng. Etym., 438.

[15] Chambers, 479.

[16] Ibid.

[17] WNWCD, s.v. "heron".

[18] WN3IDE, 1060.

[19] Chambers, 479.

[20] WN3IDE, 1060.

[21] Oxford Dic. of Eng. Etym., 438.

[22] Chambers, 479.

[23] Oxford Dic. of Eng. Etym., 438.

[24] WN3IDE, 1060.

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