Talk:snatch victory from the jaws of defeat
I absolutely fucking give up. Despite comparison to other extant pages and use of help sheets ([this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_templates] and several others), I cannot for the life of me get the following citation to actually appear (stripping of <refz> </refz> [sic] and curl brackets intentional:
cite journal | last = Safire | first = William | author-link = William Safire | title = Clichés for '06 | journal = The New York Times | date = January 1 2006 | year = 2006
Moreover, I haven't even tried to insert the ["link to the damned article" http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/01/magazine/01wwln_safire.html].
Christ, I can't even get the link buttons to work! I'm not even going to TRY to figure out how this is done. This is CRAZY-MAKING. Wikipedia and Wikitionary's help pages are not useful. Simple, automated editing tools (buttons!) are required. Mikalra 16:21, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
- That's because Wiktionary is not Wikipedia. Actually, we try and avoid footnotes. Mglovesfun (talk) 16:22, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
Then how is anyone supposed to know that one didn't just make something up?? Mikalra 20:04, 14 May 2010 (UTC)