Talk:theyfab

About my added definition being removed

Really don't want to get into a edit war with someone who just goes lol you're wrong with my added definition so I'll post the reason for the added definition.

The reason why I added another definition is this became my hyperfixation for a bit and I went down a rabbit hole when I heard the discourse about this word recently and there seems to be 3 groups of people with different definition of the word.

1st there's non-binary people who have a problem with the fact it references their birth sex.

2nd there's people who heard it from tumblr being used against other trans masc people by other trans masc because they didn't past enough and it took a life of its own.

And finally trans femme people who use it to describe people in the LGBT community who take part in excluding them base on their birth sex with such examples as Michfest, AFAB only housing, LGB Alliance (this one I didn't see used but should be applicable) and I heard something vaguely about a online author list that excluded trans women but didn't get the full context of that.

The reason I described the 3rd reason and was the definition I added as equivalent to race traitor is because it can both be misused and use somewhat validly and still be derogatory like how white supremacist will use race traitor when talking about mixed raced couples or the slightly valid reason but still bad use of it against a minority in a position of power engaging in actions that harm people in that minority group being called it which seemed like a apt comparison to what I inferred it being used as in that context.

Just going to say that a word can have multiple definition for a word and still shouldn't be used if it's harmful in even one definition.

Now how did this word come about with varying definitions but being the same word this is just a guess but maybe it was shorting "they who look female at birth" vs "they who identify as female at birth" but that was just a guess so take it with a grain of salt.

Also hindsight being 20/20 I could of not used non-binary when describing the difference in the use of they (preferred pronoun use vs gender neutral term for a group of people) so my bad on that seeing how it really not needed and it can come across kind of antagonistic with the 1st definition. ContextofWords (talk) 17:16, 1 December 2023 (UTC)