Template talk:R:it:GDLI

better name

@Catonif Hi, I'm thinking of renaming this to {{R:it:Crusca}} and the existing template of this name to {{R:it:Crusca Less}} or {{R:it:Crusca Vocab}} or similar. What do you think? This is consistent with existing naming e.g. of {{R:it:Hoepli}}, {{R:it:Olivetti}}, etc., which are named by the publisher or author rather than the name of the dictionary, since the dictionaries themselves have such similar names (Grande Dizionario Italiano = Hoepli, Dizionario Italiano = Olivetti, Vocabolario della Lingua Italiana = Zingarelli, etc.). BTW for some reason we don't have a template for Zingarelli but we should create one. Benwing2 (talk) 00:51, 25 January 2023 (UTC)

@Benwing2 Hi, I don't think it's a particularly good idea to have two templates that both start with "Crusca". You're right that it isn't consistent, but that's because the way dicts are usually referred to isn't consistent. We call {{R:du Cange}}, {{R:Gaffiot}}, {{R:grc:Beekes}}, {{R:it:Pianigiani}} from their authors, {{R:FEW}}, {{R:OED}}, {{R:fr:TLFi}}, {{R:it:Sapere}} from their titles and {{R:it:Hoepli}}, {{R:it:Olivetti}} by their publishers. I'd say "Let me check GDLI", and not "Let me check Crusca", which on the other hand is pretty fitting for {{R:it:Crusca}}, since its title is basically "The Crusca Vocabulary". Catonif (talk) 13:00, 25 January 2023 (UTC)

@Catonif Hmm, in general I don't like long abbreviation strings because they are impenetrable and hard-to-remember. There are certain exceptions like OED that are very well-known using those letters but in general we shouldn't use such abbreviations. Is Crusca's dictionary really known generally by GDLI? For me at least I think of this as the dictionary of the Accademia della Crusca rather than by its (extremely generic and immemorable) name. Benwing2 (talk) 17:59, 25 January 2023 (UTC)

@Benwing2 From the front page of www.gdli.it: "Il corpus contiene attualmente tutti i volumi del GDLI [...]" and "Il GDLI è stato pubblicato tra il 1961 e il 2002, [...]". Googling "il GDLI" will show many uses, all referring to this dictionary and this dictionary alone. If you talked with me about the "dictionary of the Accademia della Crusca" I would think, misunderstanding you, about the dictionary whose title is literally "Vocabolario degli accademici della Crusca". Catonif (talk) 13:29, 26 January 2023 (UTC)